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Yup, Soros is the new Rothschild when it comes to Jewish bogey men.

Like I said, everything is libs and cons to you. Everything you don't agree with is some kind of a conspiracy instead of just a different way of seeing the world. People on the right love labels as much as anyone, labels kill discussion by trivializing any view but your own. You use of the label, "Libs" just shows that.

WTF are you talking about.

Want a good read? The Big Show by Pierre Closterman, maybe the best book written by a fighter pilot to come out of WW2. A French guy.

For starters, Vichy France was less than half of France and only part of of French North Africa

Come on now, it's both sides of the spectrum. The, all liberals are commies crowd on the right is just as bad.

It's turned into a black and white world, a world of opposites. You are either an isolationist nationalist or want world government. There is no middle ground anymore.

Because you seem oblivious to the fact there were other puppet governments. Vichy France never took up arms against the allies, Vichy units did defend French territories in Africa when they were invaded, then they joined the allies. You act like Vichy France was all of France when around a half million were part of the French resistance. You want to dumb history down to a simplicity that never existed.

You should do a little research on the Quisling government in Norway.

The Dutch never had the option of a Vichy style regime.

No, it’s about realizing that there were saints sinners and Nazi sympathizers in all the occupied countries. Did you know there were seven Dutch SS regiments? Sorry, six but two were brigades and two were divisions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffen-SS_foreign_volunteers_and_conscripts

You are free to be a judgmental prick who has and never will find himself in that position.

So how does that make them different from other occupied countries? The Franks were likely betrayed by a fellow Dutch person, serveral are suspected.

The Frenc resistance was also the largest of any occupied country except maybe Russia. Joined the Axis? They made peace as best they could at the point of a gun. The Vichy French were conflicted, that’s why they were a pushover in North Africa. Lots of people from occupied countries served in German units.

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Every occupied country had collaborators. Quisling was Norwegian.

Doesn't make it any less ignorant.

You could say the same about the Poles in 1939 and Russians in 1941.

Pretty arrogant and ignorant for someone from a country that has never seen a foreign invader on its soil other than the US.

Who said they want to go it alone, Trump's threats are making them consider the possibility that they might have to. They see an America that is becoming more isolationist at self absorbed.

Trump wants more resources put into NATO. Europe is seeing Trump as less than a reliable ally and so is looking at how it can operate without relying on the US. Trump senses a loss of influence in Europe and doesn't like the idea.

Guess not. Trump's court appointments are paying off for the GOP. To bad it is American voters who are being screwed.

Trump is the antithesis of those soldiers who died.

You don't need to be on high ground to snipe at someone who is below ground.

Show me where I have called for open borders. I've said several times that how the US manages its borders is its business. The fact that Trump and the media have moved on is proof that he hyped it for the midterms. Maybe it will become a big deal again if and when they get to the border and maybe not.