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Can you cite your source that says cops had investigated him and found them false.

Well? Without anything to back the allegation - we're all free to speculate! Why would it be "crazy talk?" Depends on which scenario benefits China the most - Khalistan referendum or western nations having a fall-out with India? Mind you, I know practically nothing about China's interest (Khalistan) in India. ?

Having spent the past months fighting accusations that he acted too slowly to address serious allegations that China attempted to meddle in Canada’s 2019 and 2021 elections, Trudeau’s has landed in a potentially costly diplomatic dog fight with the world’s most populous democracy, India, at exactly the time he needs Delhi the most. Put simply, the timing couldn’t be worse. What has surprised critics is that Trudeau made the allegations public before the police investigation was completed. That has angered the Indian government, which is demanding that Ottawa show the evidence. Trans-Pacific diplomatic dog fight In a rapidly deteriorating bilateral relationship, both sides have expelled diplomats. A Canadian trade mission has been postponed and trade talks frozen. Delhi has gone even further by temporarily stopping the processing of visas for Canadian citizens and warning its citizens about visiting Canada. Meanwhile, pressure on Trudeau to fill the information vacuum is growing: “The Prime Minister needs to lay out his case, immediately, to bolster support for the government’s actions both at home and abroad,” the Toronto Globe and Mail said in an editorial. “Canadians deserve clarity on such an important matter, particularly given the potential for significant diplomatic and economic repercussions.” Oh, Canada! India is the most important counter balance that the West has to China’s ascension as the dominant superpower of the 21st century. That explains why Canada’s main ally, the United States, is sitting resolutely on the sidelines. The Biden administration can’t be blamed for prioritizing its ongoing bromance with India and Prime Minister Narendra Modi over the bilateral relationship with Ottawa. For Trudeau and Joly — his former Quebec lieutenant who came to the post with no foreign affairs experience — the crisis comes shortly after the government unveiled a long-awaited and much vaunted Indo-Pacific strategy meant to make relations with India and the region a cornerstone of Canadian foreign policy. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opinion-trudeau-future-stake-canada-164214680.html @CdnFox @SpankyMcFarland @Aristides If the relationship with India becomes more corrosive, it could impact the ailing Canadian economy: Indian students represent a whopping 40% of total overseas foreign students, it is one of Canada’s top ten trading partners and the fourth biggest source of tourism. For Trudeau, who has survived three ethics violations and will go down in history as the first Canadian prime minister to be found guilty of breaking federal ethics laws, the crisis occurs in the background of plummeting ratings, brought about by a stubborn cost of living and housing crisis. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/opinion-trudeau-future-stake-canada-164214680.html

@Aristides @CdnFox @SpankyMcFarland You guys better calm down. Trudeau hasn't named any specific G-Eyes. I suppose, no G-Eyes want to come out publicly? Not even the USA? While Cohen would not comment on whether the intelligence informing the Canadian government's investigation was both human and surveillance-based, or whether it included signals intelligence of Indian diplomats, the United States envoy to Canada said "there was shared intelligence among Five Eyes partners that helped lead Canada to making the statements that the Prime Minister made." Amid reports from CBC and The Associated Press that the intelligence Trudeau was speaking of did not come from Canada alone, and that additional information was provided by an unspecified member of the intelligence-sharing alliance between Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States, Cohen told Kapelos that there was "a lot of communication" between Ottawa and D.C. He made this comment while denying a Washington Post report alleging that weeks before Trudeau's bombshell declaration, Ottawa asked its closest allies, including the U.S. to publicly condemn the murder and that overture was rebuffed. "Very bluntly, I will say that — and you know me well enough — that I'm not in the habit of commenting on private diplomatic conversations," Cohen said. "Look, I will say this was a matter of shared intelligence information," he added. "There was a lot of communication between Canada and the United States about this, and I think that's as far as I'm comfortable going." https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/shared-intelligence-from-five-eyes-informed-trudeau-s-india-allegation-u-s-ambassador-1.6574265

@Aristides @CdnFox @SpankyMcFarland For all we know - it was CHINA that's behind the assassination! For what? Exactly for this!

@Aristides @SpankyMcFarland Modi claimed to have talked to Trudeau about Nijjar being a terrorist responsible for some terrorist crimes. It wasn't the first time India brought this up it seems. Granted we can't extradite him nor can we suppress freedom of speech - but instead, making him a Canadian citizen right on the heels of their complaint against him - wouldn't that be a provocation? Wouldn't that clearly indicate, in nor uncertain terms, that they're ignoring INDIA? Something else could be at play here. If the whole WESTERN NATIONS get involved against India - who do you think will be clapping its hands with glee? If there is a fall-out between WESTERN NATIONS and India - who do you think will benefit the most? C H I N A. On the grand geopolitical chess board, India is a key player. Not only is it a growing power - the most populous country in the world, the fifth-biggest economy. But it is also seen by the West as a potential bulwark against China. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66856568?at_link_id=8DF654A8-570F-11EE-BB14-7350FE754D29&at_link_type=web_link&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_campaign_type=owned&at_format=link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_link_origin=BBCNews

@SpankyMcFarland @CdnFox This isn't about being a "fan." This is about "looking at things.................... OBJECTIVELY and RATIONALLY. It's become the norm for liberals to presume guilt before any trials......and in this case, even before being presented with an evidence. All it takes is an accusation, and your whole world can be turned upside down. Scary mentality - some liberals have nowadays. It's so like..........communist!. Therefore - don't even try to bring up the RULE OF LAW! WHAT, 'RULE OF LAW?" Presumed innocent until proven guilty! That part rings a bell? When you're making a very serious public accusation about a nation's leader before the whole world..............citing "confidentiality," seems so hollow and immature. Especially so when it is about an important ally and trade partner. "Confidentiality," will seem like a very convenient cop-out. I haven't checked the news yet as of this writing. So far, Trudeau is asking for INDIA's help in investigating. HELLO? https://ottawacitizen.com/news/canada/trudeau-seeks-indias-help/wcm/da421a5a-245b-47f1-ac36-a76b45287f55 LOL - after humiliating Modi and INDIA publicly before the global community, what should we expect from India? To come forward willingly and cooperate? ? G-eyes - even the ones who shared intel with us - aren't coming forward to CORROBORATE the allegations! ALL WE HAVE IS AN ALLEGATION! The accuser says: he did it! The accused says: I didn't! Therefore, right now - this is a matter of "he says, he says!"

@QuebecOverCanada Who is this other 5-eyes? Unless the particular 5 eyes partners who gave the intel come forward to corroborate that claim. As far as I know, no one has.

Why? Where's your evidence that Modi did.

Spin it as you wish. But, according to Global News, he was on Interpol List. India's media calls it, "RED CORNER NOTICE." I looked it up, what it means. https://www.interpol.int/How-we-work/Notices/Red-Notices

@CdnFox @WestCanMan Not saying that I agree with assassinations done by foreign individuals in sovereign nations, but to get some perspective on this issue - put ourselves in MODI's shoes! Apparently, Hardeep Singh is also raising funds to support the seperatist movement in India. Lol - didn't the Liberals explode when money from Conservatives in the USA start pouring in to support the CONVOY protest? Wasn't the Convoy people accused of terrorism? Didn't Trudeau start freezing bank assets? Was that constitutional?

I don't think anyone is saying that! THIS IS THE POINT: at the end of the day - if we're going to hurt ECONOMIC ties, let alone a friendly relation with a long-time ally - we need more than just an accusation! THAT'S THE ISSUE! ESPECIALLY SO, when relations are shaky already in the first place. Everyone knows MODI doesn't like Trudeau................. for meddling with the farmers' protest! Trudeau should've really walked on eggshells around this murder. Utmost diplomacy is what any responsible leader would do, mindful of the economic repercussions at a time when CANADIANS are facing such financial crisis! I don't know what you and I are arguing about!

I suppose the Font Liberte du Quebec must be a hero in Quebec to some.

He appealed that in court. It was also rejected in 2001 I'm wondering how he got in eventually after all those, and became a citizen in 2015. The whole point though is that Justin Trudeau has not given any evidence for such a strong accusation against an ally and lucrative trading partner. I mean, you just don't get up on the House of Commons and make that kind of accusation without backing it up. No one was given any evidence - not even the opposition leaders - as far as I know from the news. The way Trudeau - with that sombre face and tone - stood up before the House of Commons to drop the bombshell. It smacks more of "THEATRE" to me since he doesn't provide any answers! WHY ANNOUNCE IT PUBLICLY, if he can't show anything? If they're still investigating - then how did he come to the conclusion that the India government was involved? Furthermore - If they don't know who the killers were - how could they have known they were from the India government? It could've been a local vendetta killing. A month after that other guy (who was acquitted from Air India bombing) seems to also have been assasinated. We don't know. But look where it's led Canada and India relations! It could've been handled diplomatically, I think if Trudeau doesn't have anything solid to back his words. He better bring something to the table!

In 1997, Nijjar came to Canada, claiming he had been beaten and tortured by Indian police. In 1998, his refugee claim was denied. According to his immigration records, he used a fraudulent passport that identified him as “Ravi Sharma.” “I know that my life would be in grave danger if I had to go back to my country, India,” he wrote in his affidavit, dated June 9, 1998. His application was rejected, and 11 days later Nijjar married a B.C. woman who sponsored him to immigrate as her spouse. On his application form, he was asked whether he was associated with a group that used or advocated “armed struggle or violence to reach political, religious or social objectives.” He said “no,” but immigration officials considered it a marriage of convenience and rejected Nijjar’s application. Nijjar appealed to the courts and lost in 2001, but he later identified himself as a Canadian citizen. Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada declined to comment to Global News at the time of that report, citing privacy legislation. On Tuesday, immigration minister Marc Miller confirmed that Nijjar became a Canadian citizen on March 3, 2015. He was accused of being involved in the 2007 bombing of a cinema in Punjab. A 2016 Interpol notice against him alleged he was a “key conspirator” in the attack. He was accused of recruiting and fundraising, a charge that Nijjar vehemently denied. https://globalnews.ca/news/9969537/who-is-hardeep-singh-nijjar/

I didn't know it has a paywall. I don't think I have access..........but I'm surprised I was able to get that far. I just tried accessing the timeline - I can't get in.

Check out from timer 4:40:

The pressure is really gonna hit: The opposition parties have rightly echoed the government’s condemnation of the notion of an assassination of a Canadian citizen, but they have done so in an information vacuum. That vacuum must be filled. More than that, Canadians deserve clarity on such an important matter, particularly given the potential for significant diplomatic and economic repercussions. But what of the national security imperative to protect sources and methods? Those concerns have been raised as a shield, time and again, in the debate over China’s attempt to meddle in Canada’s elections. They remain, for the most part, a self-serving justification for officials to retain control over information that belongs in the public sphere. Some particulars of intelligence-gathering techniques may need to be held back from public view. Everything else must be brought to light, and not just because Canadians deserve clarity. Realpolitik will be served as well. To date, Ottawa’s efforts to round up support from its closest allies have been unsuccessful. The Liberals have denied reports that our allies refused Canada’s request to condemn India over Mr. Nijjar’s killing. Whatever parsing of language allows for that statement, the reality is this: No country has. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-ottawa-owes-canadians-the-full-truth-on-the-killing-of-hardeep-singh/

She was the biggest surprise in the leadership race. Anaida Poilievre, doing her part, reaching out to the Latino community: I think, when election time comes - she'll be doing the rounds - reaching out to minority groups in the GTA, British Columbia and Quebec.

Lol - that's not a comparison! Unless the dalai lama is accused of terrorism, and is listed on the INTERPOL! I agree - that's why I'm saying, all we have right now are Trudeau's words! Pardon me for being a skeptic......but Trudeau needs a manna from heaven right now to distract from his failings as a PM, not to mention his sinking poll numbers. But we do know that this man was listed on the INTERPOL as the leader of the bombing in Punjab. That kinda supports Modi's accusation.

How come he's listed with the INTERPOL as the leader with regards to that bombing in Punjab?? I'd like to know why he was rejected to be in Canada for 2 or three times!

I hope this accusation against India isn't all "theatre" to try to improve sagging polls.