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@Five of swords So you think that if two people in Norway adopted a child of Jewish descent at infancy and raised him without him ever knowing he was Jewish that he would exhibit some kind of Jewish behavior?

Yeah, I am not saying the theory about Hitler's grandmother was right. But still, why couldn't he have had Jewish blood. Is that impossible? I mean how long were Jews in Germany? Not hard to imagine that one of his ancestors procreated with a Jewish person. Not hard to imagine that one of your ancestors could have done the same.

What percentage of Jewish blood does one have to have in order to exhibit Jewish behavior? I think the theory about him being Jewish has to do with Alois being a bastard. That bastard!! Some people believe that his grandmother had an affair with a Jewish guy. I am sure you are familiar with that. Probably malarky, but there were certainly Jews in Germany. Maybe someone in that lineage was Jewish. Who knows? Not to my knowledge. I was once at a rest stop in Massachussets and a few rabbis with the hats and beards approached me and said, "You are Jewish aren't you?"

I assure you that is not my intent. I am just trying to look at things from a different angle. Logical fallacy again. I have not asserted any such thing. I have asserted that most of the differences between ethnicities have to do with culture. I would also argue that race is definitely more fluid. This is easy to illustrate. Men and women for the most part are separate. There are extremely rare cases like the boxer this thread was started about. Other than that, men are men. Women are women. There is no crossover. But people from different gene pools can reproduce. I mean I really don't know who slept with who throughout history. There were people who believed Hitler may have been part Jewish. Not saying I agree with that. But hey, I suppose that is possible.

@Five of swords I am going to ask you sort of an off the wall question. Do you believe in Atlantis?

I am not a scientist. I am not even very educated. But I think difference in ideology and moral beliefs among ethnicities is mainly due to cultural differences. Here is a question I would ask you. How do you define race? I mean I am not saying it doesn't exist. But I do think it is more fluid than sex.

Does it matter whether the differences are "too small" to matter or simply non-existent? I am not a genticist or any kind of scientist. The fact that there are genetic differences between peoples does not necessarily mean that those peoples cannot thrive equally in society. You haven't established that there is any observable difference to justify that belief. One can believe that there are significant differences between the sexes without believing that whatever genetic diffferences exist between ethnicities are as important. We sort of touched on this sort of thing in another thread.

Well, no I think the logical fallacy still stands, even if I misquoted you. You can believe there are differences in genetics without believing that all races are incapable of thriving equally well in the same environment. One does not necessarily follow from the other. I mean there are all kinds of genetic differences in society that are not necessarily tied to race. There are very tall people and very short people. Can they thrive in the same society. What makes you think the difference between race is more significant than those differences?

That's your perception.

No one here would expect the Olympic Opening ceremonies to insult gay people. It's fine to insult people. There is a different standard for the opening ceremonies of the Olympics. Not a legal standard, though. They have free speech as well. No one is suggesting they should not have been allowed to do this. They are simply withdrawing support. To put things in perspective, a Brazilian surfer was asked before the Olympics to use a different board than usual because his board has an image of Jesus on it. This is something very few people would even see. On the one hand, this surfer is expected to comply with the Olympics standards for "secularism" so as not to offend snowflakes. On the other hand, well ... this. So people are not getting all bent out shape. They notice the double standards. They know the Olympics wouldn't allow this type of "art" related to a certain middle eastern faith. They know that displaying any religion in a positive light would not be accepted. So... some of these people are saying you know what... these people don't have any respect for people like me. They would not let someone like me have an image of Jesus at the Olympics. And after a while they think to themselves, you know maybe I just won't watch this anymore. Leftists would demand some kind of compensation for an insult. Then, they would want someone cancelled.

This is a logical fallacy on your part. He is not denying that at all. You can believe genetics matter without subscribing to your opinion that races cannot get along. Here is a simple illustration. You are talking about race. We were discussing men and women. Let's use gender, since we both agree on that. Men and women are different. I know you agree with this. Those differences matter. I am sure you agree with that. Does it automatically follow then that men and women cannot live together and get along?

He is not arguing in favor of gender ideology. He is making an entirely different point. I don't agree with the point he is making, however. He is saying that we are guilty of the same denial of genetic reality because we don't subscribe to his opinions on race. He could have just come out and said that though.

Is that you, Kamala?

That is what you believe. I believe the exact opposite. Not that Trump is amazing... but that Democrats are the darker side of American politics. And yes, clearly I was just ribbing people before. I assumed I was being obvious enough.

Do you watch MSNBS Lies? LMAO. ROTLMAO. LMFAO. ROTLMFAO.

myata, what you fail to recognize is that we think the same way about the Democrats. We think they are worse. We see that they have targeted political opponents. We see that they gave Trump 34 felonies for a hush money payment. That's outlandish. We see that the IRS targeted conservatives. We see that they lied about Biden being able to be president for 3 years. We know they knew this. Maybe you believed it. Maybe you even really believe Biden did this honorable thing by stepping down. But the Democrats knew he was not firing on all cylinders. The media knew it. And if the Democrats knew he wasn't fit to be president, and they had to protect him and lead him around like a lost puppy, he really wasn't president at all. That's a pretty big deal. We don't think Jan 6. was a coup. We think calling it a coup is a ridiculous exaggeration. We don't care that he slept with a porn star or had a bunch of affairs. Were you born yesterday? You have never heard of a politician having sexual escapades. You will just ignore it when it's a Democrat. I have mentioned this before, and I will mention it again. Democrats had a great reverence for a man who once drove off a bridge with a young woman in his car. He survived and got away. He left her there and never reported this to the police until a day later. Clinton and Kennedy were both womanizers. Clinton was accused of rape and sexual harrassment. Overvaluing Mar-A-Lago? The bank didn't even complain about it. That is nowhere near the worst of the shady business dealings that go on in Washington --- by people from both parties. We have worse corruption than that going on in little old Canada. No one realistically expects to see many politicians being convicted over it. There is only one reason people care now about this stuff --- because it's Trump. Orange man bad!

myata, somebody is going to win in November. I don't know who that is. I think it would be worse if the Democrats won. That is my belief, whether you can grasp that or not. But you know what, in the end, it's out of my control. I am not even American. So if Trump loses, so be it. I won't be surprised by it. Someone has to win. Someone has to lose. I am going to go on with my life. I will be ok. The sun rises, the sun sets. I don't make that happen, and I take each day as it comes. If Trump wins the election, you will be just fine. I think you are panicking. The same people telling you that Trump wants to abolish the vote are the ones who told you Biden was fine for 3+ years. Let's do a worst case scenario here. Let's say he is going to win. Let's say you are right about Trump. He is a lying clown. He is going to abolish the vote. He is going to lock up people like Rachel Maddow and Joy Behar. How will you deal with that? Sometimes this is a good thing to do. The Toronto Maple Leafs have had a decent team for the past several years. I don't like admitting that. Every year before the playoffs I allow myself to think about the horrifying possibility that the Leafs actually win another Stanley Cup someday. Annoying Leaf fans everywhere would be banging their annoying Leaf fan tambourines. Would I have to build a bunker and stay down there for a few years to escape that? Sometimes it's good to war game these things, then you start panicking less.

Posted it before but.... A voice of reason from the Democrat party: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4752547-house-dem-trump-is-going-to-win-and-im-ok-with-that/

I can't help but notice that he 'liked' the original post. I've also noticed that he claims to lament the decline in the quality of political debate.

Which Democrat are you talking about here? You've described most of them pretty well. Hopefully Trump wins this fall so we can get rid of all that hate and fear. I mean just go read myata's original post. That's what leftist fearmongering has created.

Rebranding? It's just who he is and what he stands for. That's why the left hates him so much. You can't stand truth, love and justice.

Cuz out on the edge of darkness there rides a Trump Train Oh Trump Train take this country, come take me home again Everyone jump on the Trump Train!!

Whether you poop in a bucket or a gold-plated toilet, we are all just regular guys. If trying to win people over with truth, love and justice is a coup... then bring on the coup.

IRS targeting conservatives. Endless indictments against a rival presidential candidate. Parents labelled as terrorists for opposing radical gender ideology in schools. If you want to find tyranny you need look no further than the Democrat party. You don't care to answer for those things. You run away from those realities. Trump and Kim get it. Love is the answer, myata. That and project 2025.

I don't believe in a rosy, alternate reality. I also don't believe Donald Trump is a macabre, evil clown. That's your fantasy. An evil clown marching over a field of fires. Is that really how you see things?