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Jesse Kline: Justin Trudeau rejects Canadian patriotism There is only proper — indeed, only one patriotic — response to reliable reports of foreign election interference, but Trudeau did the opposite https://nationalpost.com/opinion/justin-trudeau-rejects-canadian-patriotism

It's possible in theory but not in practice. Opening up the charter could solve the problem and that's the old 7 /50 requirement, but in the real world opening up the constitution is almost impossible to pull off. So the only change we're able to make is to elect better gov'ts and have them stay out of provincial business, and accept the fact every now and again you'll get a dicator like trudeau

And you're offering that as a genuine distinction? Especially when you're saying it explains why they are conservative? So they find other people scary and vote conservative'. That's what you're saying. That's pretty much the same thing. And what conservative propaganda are you referring to? This is canada - give examples of propaganda the conservative party has put out suggesting we should be afraid of 'different' people. As an outsider looking in let me assure you there's no apparent difference between either party in the states in that respect. They both talk culture war stuff non stop. I'm sure dems think the republicans are worse and the republicans think the dems are worse but they're both pretty darn bad. It was the left and the democrats who were against freeing the slaves, if we feel like going back that far. Lincoln was a republican. The KKK was the militant arm of the dems back in those days. As to these days i don't think it's 'fear of the other' that the republicans go on about when looking at gender affirming care such as surgeries. As near as can be told looking at american media they seem mostly honked about the use of language and or having to actually pay for such medical processes through orgs like the army and such. I'm sorry but your point of view was largely driven by your clear preference for the left wing of the us parties. It was a very biased and inaccurate statement, at the very least for Canada. The people in most of the rural areas in Canada are pretty good people and they don't vote conservative out of fear of anyone. They tend to vote that way because they believe in minimal gov't, lower taxes and don't care about social programs they're never going to see or benefit from anywhere in their communities. And even then there's parts that don't - look at rural newfoundland (which is all of it). or sometimes rural manitoba, etc. Rural bc often goes NDP. But if there's a tendency to go cpc then they do so for reasons OTHER than fears about other people.

This specifically mentions excluding covid related spending. This is the largest in history and our economy got so 'stimulated' that we now have runaway inflation. It is climbing out of control and if you're comparing us to countries like greece that's not the bar you want set. Our debt to gdp USED to be low. Not anymore. That's true, it has to be done wisely. But they're not cutting - they're INCREASING spending. Guess what's going to happen when someone DOES finally start to cut? It's going to need to be more drastic. Unfortunately trudeau doesn't think about monetary policy.

Sure. But these are the same people who think if you spend less than an hour in your doctor's waiting room they're being too kind.

LOL - well i was too nice to say it but true.

There are many things associated with religious belief that may affect your stay. Are you kosher? Halal? is there any religious practices you may be participating in that will require them to be prepared for it such as mass? Do you believe in bood transfusions? These days i think they find more diplomatic ways to get to the same answers, but they are kind of relevant. GIving blood to someone who believes that's a sin would be a big deal.

He ran and hid like a biatch in his bunker. More like shut-in NEET.

do you think that is what this is? Exploiting your position over children and exposing them to sexual degradation of women is 'mocking' to you?

that would have involved coming out of hiding Probably too much to wish for.

Ahh. Well - i was actually just agreeing with those parts i mentioned. I didn't really read what you said. His commentary on the person's actions caught my eye and that's what i was supporting.

No, that's just a very bigoted and prejudiced reply. It really is just a variant on 'rural people are backwards'. There's several problems with it - lets go through them. 1 - rural people hate/fear those who are different. In fact rural people are far more welcoming of strangers than the urban folk these days, at least in Canada. THere's a long long tradition that supports this acceptance. There's also a real attitude of 'if it's not affecting me, i don't really care'. Your premise also supposes that there's no chance to meet "different" people. I really hate to break it to you but there's a solid representation of different religions and sexualities in the prairies. Your idea that there isn't is just weird. They may not hold as many big parades but then neither do the "normal" people. 2 - and this is the biggie - Conservatives are all about hating other people. THat's why they vote for them. This is just you being a bigot straight out. The Conservative party didn't attack gays or muslims or anyone else while they were in power and no proposals to do so are on the table. THey may not support laws that are all about virtue signalling to various groups but they're pretty much against virtue signalling as a waste of time in general. So you imagine all these people sitting in their rural homes petrified and furious at muslims or something and so they'll vot cpc because the cpc will.... do what? They're not going to do anything against the muslims. If anything they're more likely than the libs to stand up for religious freedoms. So the premise is flawed in the first place - even if rural folk all lived in fear and anger over different people as you surmise (which is REALLY weird) then voting cpc wouldn't help them. Sorry - but could we get you to reign that bigotry in a little bit?

That would change nothing. It would be MORE of a kindergarten style pathetic specticle . we've had enough minority gov'ts so far to see that. And it would do nothing to stop gov't overreach. In fact it would make it harder to at least hold your local guy to account. PR diffuses responsibility, it doesn't consolidate it. Short version - if voters won't make good decisions under the current system, they won't under PR and the problems persist. Sure, but there are other reasons. The goal of a politician is to be in power. Nobody who doesn't hunger for that gets very far. You might make it to mp but you'll never get past that unless you really really want the power. So the libs don't want proportional becuase they'll have to suckhole to the ndp constantly to stay in power. The cpc doesn't want it because they'll rarely get in power. All the fringe parties and the ndp do want it because they know theyll never get in power but if the house sees more minorities then they can own the balance of power which is just as good (right jagmeet?) But that just makes for a disaster. PR solves nothing and brings on a number of new problems. All while pretending to be 'true democracy', which it isn't. And if it was we wouldn't want it - true democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.

I prefer to think that moses played charleton heston in the exodus. (i'm funning ya a bit if you didn't get that )

He claimed the person's behavior was immoral, showed no respect for others and no honour. I'll set aside the 'honour' part, that's really a very personal thing and not really entirely relevant enough to deserve detailed discussion. BUt - immoral is a very relevant and demonstrable case. Assuming we're using what are fairly well established moral values for our society, it is a generally accepted norm it is immoral to expose underage children (not yet old enough to have sex) to sexualized conduct or activity especially without permission of their parents. It is further considered immoral to mock and degrade women, which this clearly does. Its regarded as immoral to put your own interests ahead of those you have responsibility and are in a position of power over such as students. Obviously that's happening. So - immoral? Check respect? Zero respect shown for women. the students, the parents, the job. Can you point to any action that's respectful of others? Nope? Me either So, in this case it's hard not to agree with him that this person has behaved in a very immoral fashion and shown no respect for the people around him that he owes a duty of care to.

He would think: "Great, now i have to wipe the heel of my boot off again".

You can pry my han solo figurine from my cold dead hands baal-boy.

something even we can agree on.

And it wasn't for the reporters.

And they know you're not telling the truth. It's there in black and white. Sorry kiddo. But you're right about one thing, you do it over and over and over. It's become your calling card You should try NOT saying dumb things you'll have to deny saying later

AHhh again with your learned reasoned discourse i see. Still telling people not to be insulting by insulting them. Your parents must be so proud! So we'll add 'hypocrite' to your list of personality defects as well i guess. The fact that they didn't. Which i pointed out. I realize you get distracted while you're busy insulting people who havent insulted you yet but surely you can remember something that was said just a post or two ago. They absolutely won't, they didn't, and lets be honest - you probably haven't seen ANYTHING that suggests otherwise.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-china-funding-interference-1.6771842 As Poilievre presses on election interference, Trudeau calls suggestion he isn't loyal to Canada 'despicable' "A large clandestine transfer of funds earmarked for the federal election from the PRC Consulate in Toronto was transferred to an elected provincial government official via a staff member of a 2019 federal candidate," the report says, according to Global. This is a pretty textbook deflection from the cbc. You see - trudeau isn't the bad guy! Oh no - Look, Pierre is PRESSING him! Pierre is the one doing the bad thing and attacking him! And trudeau points out that it's DESPICABLE to question him, and suggests that is what pierre is doing by placing the two things in the same headline. The message is "pierre attacks justin which is despicable."

Sorry - literacy issue you're having or is it tourettes? China can't really stand against either of them right now. But - there are fundimental differences in the societies that make such a thing very very very difficult. Lets not forget that it was tried pretty agressively under ole' splotch-head. The russian gov't tried to take a more concillatory role in the world affairs and the wall came down and so on, but that didn't last and it's not what the russian people wanted. So no sense wishing for things we can't have. Obviously a peaceful world focused on making our lives better and more fulfilled is a superior choice - but it's not what mankind is going to support. Soooo in other words you feel that by calling me names you can convince me i should be nicer to you. Well - i guess that's ONE way of adverizing your low IQ. Rereading my post i don't see what the hell even gave you offense. I didn't "accuse" you of anything and i wasn't rude. I said you'd have to ask russia for the answer to your question (true) and it is what it is (true) and i don't know why you're so pro russian and suggesting we should be their ally instead of the us (true). I suggested if you prefer their culture you should move there and considering you are constantly bashing the us and our involvement with them that is a reasonable thing to suggest. So please remove your head from your ass area and if you can't take a civil conversation without having a hissy fit when your own position is pointed out then go play with the other children you mindless drone. YOU are the one dragging it to insults, Comrade. You can't even be civil in a discussion yet you're lameting how people can't get along as countries. Freak.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-government-spending-canadian-history “Ultimately, the consequences of higher spending, as we’ve seen in recent years, is leading to higher deficits. That means there’s higher debt and growing interest payments that have to be paid by taxpayers,” said Fuss. “You ultimately can’t just continue increasing inflation-adjusted per person spending, without there being consequences associated with those decisions over a long time period.” Yup - and we're learning that for the second time under a second trudeau. Enjoy the inflation people.

Remember when harper was the biggest dictator in the world and a horrible person who had to be thrown out when he prorogued parliament? Pepperidge farms remembers. Why do i get the feeling the liberals and their supporters will be singing a different tune this time around?