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That would be false. Identity politics, victim hood and the fight for social justice for small groups at the expense of the majority are all forms of speech and thought control. For the latter, the word transphobic has been weaponized to often mean: "those who disagree with me". Comedians can no longer make jokes about a group, unless they belong to it. Terms like "Punching up" or "Punching down" being popular, prove this. So, if black or Asian, I could mock a white person, but a white person doing the same, is racist. Don Lemon clearly showcased this, in the debate that likely got him fired. Because the person talking about black rights wasn't black, it dismissed their entire argument. Turn on the victim hood, and then finish with identity politics in scolding them for not being black, and thus having zero understanding on black hurt. Nobody can call anyone out anymore, and that precise fear of doing so that it causes is precisely speech control. You refusing to see it, doesn't mean it isn't a tactic used to suppress speech. In Canada Justin Trudeau used terms like terrorists and unacceptable views to describe a group disagreeing with him. I didn't even touch up on tech giants silencing speech and calling it "dangerous" if it went against their propaganda. It's been proven, in written on people who places like Twitter were forced to take down. Amazon took down the book When Harry Became Sally, under far leftist pressure. It made me that much more interested in buying it, so I did. That's just one book, but to say the left hasn't canceled or suppressed anything makes you sound more like a troll than a person trying to engage in rational debate.
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The Insanity of modern Conservatism
Perspektiv replied to Americana Antifa's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
Very few take anyone in the hard left or right seriously. One extreme isn't better than the other. That's like saying a broken tibia is at least better than a blown out knee. Nobody suffering either injury has said so. The sad part is the political laughingstocks have divided people into camps who now feel they have to vote for one, or the other extreme. Either extreme is completely devoid of common sense or reality.- 115 replies
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Of course, but Zelensky stating all territory that has been taken including Crimea, would be returned to Ukraine is insanely bold, considering that their negotiating hand is compromised. The US made false promises to him before the invasion, emboldened him, and now he is begging them for weapons. The costlier this becomes, the more people will demand a solution. Especially so, when deep corruption is popping up in his government we are sending assets to without asking any questions. Documents have proven the dire prognosis the US feels are Ukraine's chances. Putin is a master at chess. War is a game of chess. Take emotions out of the equation. In what world does Ukraine have a strong hand here? Russia has an equally weak hand, in that they couldn't demand a significant portion of Ukraine's coast line. Last must be given away, and Ukraine can only bolster its hand prior to negotiations but don't have what it takes to win the war on the ground. This is and would be the only means of Ukraine accepting some land lost. Anything less, is unacceptable as a Russian guarantee is like a crackhead telling you they will pay you back. Ukraine needs to think of its security. Losing a little land, in exchange for security to me is the deal that should be made. Both parties should be pressured to make this deal. The longer this war lingers, the more they are hurt (Ukraine). Russia isn't under widespread attack, and seeing entire cities turned to ruin. Very easy to ignore this war, when your city isn't being shelled. I have spoken to several Ukrainian people who barely escaped the war, and many just want the war to stop. Some have zero idea what is left of their families. Nobody wins in war. Framing this as winning, is delusional.
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Am more concerned at speech being policed. Not people saying Abraham Lincoln was a colonizer.
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There are so many other types. So no, not rare.
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Proactively, means making concessions that are reasonable to Ukraine, to end hostilities. No agreement without an immediate entry into NATO. Only a NATO membership would make Putin think twice. A promise from him is meaningless, so you need to put protections that ensure devastating consequences to him if he ever attempted it, again. Sorry, but you don't win wars like this. You negotiate them to a stop. Ukraine is outgunned by Russia. Should they become desperate, Russia has the weapons to wipe Kyiv off the face of the earth. If you had a no holds barred war, Russia would win in seconds. There is a tightrope dance being done by all parties who clearly do not seek escalation with any of the big boys. Russia has no choice but to fight a war that favors Ukraine, who knows their terrain better than anyone. Only reason their president isn't dead. There was a close call, but western propagandists don't want to give that much light. Nothing is impossible at war. You shouldn't be operating off of hope in war. You need to be calculated. What is the likeliest way to end the conflict. Not hoping Putin gets overthrown. Thats as foolish as Putin hoping for a red wave in 2024 which would help his cause. Of course not, but North Korea and Russia have enough chemical weapons to cause disastrous human loss of life. They tested a few similar such weapons, which were more types to burn flesh within a radius, to maximize death toll, without a care for collateral. Putin backed firmly against a wall is an abusive husband aware the police is on its way. The gravity of their mistake is now impossible to escape. Walls closing in, sink or swim. This is when someone like this will be insanely dangerous. Brought to his knees, would have meant him having to take a deal that humiliated him. He is still standing, so is still in a position to call shots that the US and Ukraine are not.
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In my opinion its wisest to proactively try to end this. If all you have is hope, it won't be much to go by with Putin needing the illusion of a win at very least, to save his own bacon. He will never stop this war until this is the case and has way too much to lose to back down. I meant with trade. Let's not kid ourselves here, Russia took a massive financial hit with this catastrophic miscalculation, but its in its best interests to boost trade with China and India, who are willing to invest in bilateral investments, but not in war. China wouldn't risk its global standing to send arms to Russia, nor would India. They gain nothing, and lose too much. Iran and North Korea wouldn't hesitate, however. What I was eluding to, was Russia finding means to stabilizing their financial position and avoiding the type of crashes the US were predicting. Putin's a crook. He will find legal or illegal means to get by. Their only issue would be how quickly they could produce weapons.
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While I am in full agreement here, it will not matter as long as Putin keeps the powers that be, happy. The general population will matter little, as he has tightened the noose on things after he had his first such political scare early in his career. Of course Russia does not, but expect China and countries like Iran, India to help with back channels. Like I said. Russia can play the long game with this. It definitely isn't planned, but regardless, will not hurt their image as long as they have something to provide to propagandists. Putin can be his career on this one, that the next leader will want to end the war. Or, this isn't our war, and we shouldn't have to spend trillions of dollars on it when we desperately need these funds domestically. Losing little land, and having NATO guarantees which includes budgets to help rebuild may not be palatable to Ukraine, but 2-3 more years of this and coming to the same resolution won't be helping, either.
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I like how western media hides the horrific situations that Ukrainian soldiers have faced in cities like Bahkmut. There is no framing this other than hell on earth, and a free for all fire fight. I won't post the immensely available footage, but anyone who has seen any of it, and still feel like either side is winning to me, is crazy. For months, Russia has been sending waves of inmates to hold the line, knowing these people were being sent to be slaughtered. I saw footage of the Wagner boss in front of hundreds of coffins of his own, laughing as he stated that their "service is now done". Almost realizing he was on camera, when he corrected to "please make sure they are buried in a dignified manner". This is what you're fighting against. Its like fighting a crackhead with super human strength, breaking their nose and sending them to the ground, and thinking you're winning the fight. You're fighting a crackhead. You already lost.
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Nobody is winning this war. Death tolls that aren't hiding the other side, show a rather even clash. Propagandists may want you to believe Russia is winning on one side of the pond, or Ukraine on our side, because the reality would be too much to accept for the general population. Tens of thousands of people have been slaughtered on both sides. This isn't a win for Russia, but it has the funds and the heart to play the long game in this, as Putin's popularity is still very high in Russia, despite the west's trying to paint the scenario for the opposite. Several conservative leaders running, have eluded to a lack of an appetite for continuing to throw money at this problem. The left want to view this as winning or losing. The right are framing this, as wanting to end the conflict. Somewhere along the middle in my opinion, is the sensible solution. Ending the conflict on acceptable terms for Ukraine. Those terms in my opinion, may involve the loss of some land. However, the volume of land that Russia wants (essentially 3/4's of it's ocean front land), is unacceptable. Putin likely would take an exit ramp handed to him that he could frame as a win. The fact the US is refusing to negotiate, and are using this war as a proxy war to fight Russia and deplete them, ignores the fact that Russia is using a mere portion of its force to fight. Russia has hundreds of thousands of inmates they can throw into this to buy time. Actual Ukrainian soldiers are dying. Russia doesn't care about death. Anyone trying to frame this war as a win for anyone is delusional. We all knew Putin was, when he started the assault. Significant infrastructure loss, thousands of women and children who have been raped, abducted or slaughtered, is not a win.
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I think parents should teach their kids to be contributing and functional adults. If they're activists on top of this, all the power to them. Nothing wrong with being an activist. Its not about the activism itself, its the means of how many of these "activists" are getting their points across. When I see activists throwing soup at a painting, then using fossil fuel based glue to glue themselves near it (completely oblivious to the irony) to me this is proof competence as a person wasn't obtained before becoming an activist. Blocking slaughterhouses, because you believe in a vegan lifestyle or want to do something positive for your community, but didn't consider the hundreds of jobs you could potentially cost people. That, or going to jail long term because you don't like the police. I could go on. Tons of proof, there are tons of individuals with room temperature IQs protesting, when they would have benefited from a better education.
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Quite a few, many of which damaged statues or property to make their point known. The disturbing part to me, is the lack of condemnation by some politicians which speaks volumes. I mean, I strongly believe that war monuments and statues like these, should be off limits to thugs. There should be heavy handed jail penalties for such vandalism. You want links to parents confronting school boards, a dozen videos, news reports? What do you prefer. There is tons of this happening. You open the door for it, by teaching CRT. Many can easily make it a moral issue, vs simply teaching history.
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They calculated that US leadership was weak. They weren't wrong. Them entering Ukraine as boldly as they did is a testament as to how weak the US leadership is perceived, globally. With China's support, the only way Russia accepts a cease fire, is with some of their demands met. Russia has an immense appetite for death for the motherland. As long as Putin can frame wins through propaganda, that won't change. "Waiting this out", only helps him. A republican president in the US, flips the script, as pressure would be then to stop wasting money, and pressuring Ukraine to take a deal.
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You can support Ukrainian by negotiating a cease fire, and having them join NATO. Russia will not back out of this without some of their interests met. So, either you promise to stay out of NATO, or you give up some land as buffer. How much land will depend on who has best leverage in the conflict. Right now, that would be Russia. Russia knew what it was doing in entering Ukraine. While they had heavier losses than anticipated, they will come out if this with some of their demands met, or this war will last for a very long time. Russia has a high tolerance for death tolls of its own. The west does not, nor will they have the appetite to invest trillions of dollars into this war. Russia likely bet heavily on this and 2024. A conservative government almost certainly will force Ukraine to the negotiation table. This war can only be stopped at the negotiation table. It cannot be won on the ground, and you would have to be delusional to think otherwise (not you personally, but any party pumping billions into it thinking this).
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Has Tipping Gotten out of Control?
Perspektiv replied to Perspektiv's topic in Moral & Ethical Issues
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Does it make sense to continue funding Ukraine?
Perspektiv replied to Novemberishere's topic in The Rest of the World
I don't think it is. As a prior poster mentioned, this war could have been avoided. I don't understand why we should be footing the bulk of the cost for it. Immense pressure should be put on both sides to negotiate a cease fire via a neutral third party for each. Some would say giving an inch gives away freedom. Russia cannot lose face and leave. An exit ramp must be provided. Nobody will win. Ukraine must accept some land to be given, Russia must accept Ukraine joining NATO. -
Not sure why you would telegraph any of your moves. It keeps Russia on their toes. I think its psychological warfare at this point. If you see your neighbor taking deliveries of AK47s by the pallet, are you going to spray paint his house for him insulting you? That pallet will restrain your behavior like the monitor showing you you entering a bank. You are far less likely to rob it. Maybe that's the whole point. Stall tactics and minimize damage.
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Hate to say it, but this is mild, compared to what his group has been doing to innocent civilians. It takes someone quite sick, to put hundreds of thousands on a front line, knowing they are ill equipped, simply to wait until spring to send fresh and better equipped military.
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Black rights movement eventually garnered respect from even from some of the most hardened racists. Klan members look pathetic. Their demands were simple. We deserve rights, too. Women. Gay and lesbian groups. "Hey, we should be allowed to get married, too". It literally hurts nobody to meet any of those demands. This issue is so divisive, because you have a group making demands at the expense of other groups, and using tactics similar to those in hardline communist countries to silence dissent, right down to eating their own should they dare stray from the pack. Once their demands become rational, will you see more people willing to accept them.
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By presenting it morally, vs factually. Morals don't belong in a history class. Calling Abraham Lincoln a colonizer, ignores what he did for slaves. People need to stop looking at history through the lenses of "what i would do if I was there". Sorry, you would have done the same. Without google to spew woke BS, and schools teaching what they taught you, you just like everyone else would have known no better.
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What are you talking about? If you look at cities like San Francisco where people can walk into a store and just casually grab s*** and your goverbment or police doesn't do a thing but recommend you do something about it because they certainly won't, this isn't a business issue. Cameras, bars, no problem. Alarms, you bet. Time delayed locks on multiple doors if in a jewelery shop. I could go on. I understand business security and of course don't want to get robbed, so would adapt my business to the times. However, if you need to individually lock items in your store, and we aren't talking high cost items, but toothpaste and deodorant, just maybe something is incredibly f***ed up, socially or with policies being applied. Of course if my gas station was getting hit up and I had the money I would be first on the list in hiring heavily armed security detail for my property. The fact someone has to do this, for a gas station no less, is pathetic in the US. This is third world country standards, here.
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You do realize you can go to a developing country and not see this. I shouldn't have to spend tens of thousands of additional dollars, to protect my store. Bulletproof glass isn't cheap. Do yourself a favor, and get a quote on a 4x8' pane of such glass, and tell me a small business owner can afford to deck out their entire store with it, or even their displays. Fix the brazen crime problem. If tax dollars don't pay for policing, then what do they pay for?