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No connection between the Russians and Trump during the election?? Lol jeebus you are dumb and dishonest. But at least consistently so.

This report is an absurd bit of theater. The FBI suspected that Trump's campaign was engaged with the Russians. The investigation revealed that suspicion to be correct, they were indeed engaged with the Russians at the highest levels of the campaign. But that was no big deal to some people. But now those same people are crowing about this investigation that says maybe they didn't have enough reason to investigate the suspicions that proved to be correct. Funny, what some people care about--and crow about--when they don't have any core values. "Your honor, the defendant was mistreated. Sure they found bodies in his basement, but the real problem is that the police didn't have enough probable cause to check the basement!"

Nooooooope. We have a bicameral Congress comprising the House and the Senate. Has meant the same thing since 1788. But again, a slim margin in one chamber is not what you were predicting with your doomsday drumbeat. You were predicting a big sweep, and we all know it. I think your thoughts on 2024 are just as well informed.

WTF is wrong with you? It's split. Democrats have a slim margin in the senate. Republicans have a slim margin in the house. Do you not know what congress is? Why are you on a political forum? Jeebus.

?It's split. But we all know that's not what you were predicting with your "day of reckoning" bullshit. You're not fooling anyone.

Ah, I see you're back to various vapid one-line responses. Still, I guess that's better than spam posting a date over and over again. And we know how that worked out...

Trap? Lol They specifically recruited an audience of people likely to vote in the Republican primary. Which I don't think was a good idea, actually, but it was deliberate. People who liked an ignorant, bullying, bombastic boor the first time around will like him still. That's his base. But that's an increasingly small slice of the population.

1. Worst conspiracy theory ever is that the Republicans running the Maricopa county elections rigged it to sabotage themselves. But if you insist, you should probably move this to a thread about Republican election cheating. 2. Even accusations against Republicans should be from a reputable source, not this garbage.

Republicans had a chance to clean up that mess themselves, but chose not to. Pretty gross.

Useless troll. Just keep repeating your unsupported lies and nauseum, like a sociopath reciting the rosary.

Hey look, the liar also lied about his "ignore" list. Apparently a coward too. Stop your insane, innumerate ranting and just deal with the fact that, apples to apples, people with the vaccine fare*dramatically* better than those without. Your dumb crusade doesn't change that well documented fact.

Your lie: The guy passed nothing important on to the russians, Truth: The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign at;td proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's highlevel access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat. Your lie: Lie: they coudln't use what he did pass to help him win - Truth: ^^This is just too stupid to be any thinking person's honest opinion. How to help a candidate win is literally the entire point of polling and strategy. Jeebus. I don't even have to link that. Your lie: they DIDN'T actually do so in any detectable way, and the Truth: In her analysis of five million paid, issue-based Facebook ads—which covered such hot-button issues as gun rights, abortion, gay rights, immigration, terrorism, and race—during a six-week period of the 2016 Presidential campaign, the University of Wisconsin professor Young Mie Kim discovered that “the most highly targeted states—especially Pennsylvania and Wisconsin—generally overlap with the battleground states with razor thin margins.” These were ads placed by two hundred and twenty-eight groups, many of which were later linked to the Internet Research Agency. Kim also found that these efforts were calibrated to appeal to certain demographics. Low-income white voters, for example, were targeted with ads focussing on immigration and race. An even more comprehensive analysis, by Oxford’s Computational Propaganda Project, which was released last month, shows just how pervasive Russia’s inflammatory targeting was. “On Facebook, the five most shared and the five most liked posts focused on divisive issues, with pro-gun ownership content, anti-immigration content pitting immigrants against veterans, content decrying police violence against African Americans, and content that was anti-Muslim, anti-refugee, anti-Obama, and pro-Trump,” the researchers wrote. The posts developed by the Internet Research Agency “tended to mimic conservative views against gun control and for increased regulation of immigrants. In some cases, terms such as ‘parasites’ were used to reference immigrants and others expressed some tolerance of extremist views.” These posts increased almost seven-fold between 2015—before Manafort joined Trump’s team—and 2016, when he, and the pollsters he hired, were guiding the campaign. Your lie: senate and the fbi said he did nothing wrong. Truth: Manafort went to prison. The buddy he shared the intel with? Kilimnik was designated pursuant to E.O. 13848 for having engaged in foreign interference in the U.S. 2020 presidential election. Kilimnik was also designated pursuant to E.O. 13660 for acting for or on behalf of Yanukovych. Yanukovych, who is currently hiding in exile in Russia, was designated in 2014 pursuant to E.O. 13660 for his role in violating Ukrainian sovereignty. The FBI is offering a reward of up to $250,000 for information leading to the arrest of Kilimnik.

"A guy talked to another guy" = multilayer secrecy and security protocols on repeated communications of sensitive data that "the other guy" fed to his colleagues in Russian intelligence who were trying to help the first guy win the election by targeting Americans. And then the first guy lied about all of it under oath multiple times. GTFO, troll. You're the same kind of liar that says the insurrection was a lovely tourist event.

Hey, lunatic. The case remains that the vaccines dramatically reduced hospitalizations and deaths among the infected. The lengths you go to to talk about anything but efficacy are extraordinary--and ludicrous. You know politic have made you stupid when you pass on something that makes you 5x less likely to die if you get infected. Wear your seatbelt. Take your vaccine.

FOX viewers were not "pissed" because they questioned the decision desk's statistical methodology. Neither were you or Baier. In all of those cases it was for purely political--and commercial--reasons. Once again, you're just dishonest. That's why you pat Baier on the back for the same reasons others find him repugnant.

Around the country, decision desks race to be 1. accurate and 2. fast. Imagine calling oneself a journalist while simultaneously chastising your decision desk for achieving both of those goals. Imagine calling yourself a news channel while trying to avoid reporting the biggest news of the day. -- "I don't care if the call is correct. If the truth will upset our audience let's be the last to report it." Bret Baier's reputation didn't just take a hit. It's basically dead. I don't think he'd get an anchor job anywhere outside of FOX, where this kind of behavior is celebrated.

Again, you are an utterly shameless liar. You lie about what is in the report and what isn't. You lie about the conclusions of the report. You pretend not to know about the Treasury sanctions that followed the Intelligence committee report and confirmed what Kilimnik did with the intel, even though it's been posted multiple times. And you lie about the sensitive polling data, which the report specifically identifies as sensitive information. Literally nothing you say here is true--and demonstrably so as substantiated by evidence provided. And you will literally pretend that multilayer secrecy and security protocols and multiple lies under oath are just in the nature casual conversation. You are a complete waste of time, troll. Not an honest bone in your body.

Liar. CdnFox, meet CdnFox: "But they were pretty clear that all that was shared was stragegy." And for the probably the 12th time, it was not publicly available polling. It was sensitive, proprietary polling data, a recipe for how to target Clinton in key swing states. Which is exactly what the Russian interference effort proceeded to do. I wonder how they knew where to focus their efforts and on what topics?? You should actually read the farking report. "(U) At the meeting, Manafort walked Kilimnik through the internal polling data from Fabrizio in detail.453 According to Gates, Kilimnik wanted to know how Trump could win.454 Manafort explained his strategy in the battleground states and told Kilimnik about polls that identified voter bases in blue-collar, democratic-leaning states which Trump could swing.455 Manafort said these voters could be reached by Trump on issues like economics, but the Campaign needed to implement a ground game.456 Gates recalled that Manafort further discussed the "battleground" states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Minnesota.457 (U) The Committee sought to determine with specificity what information Kilimnik actually gleaned from Manafort on August 2, 2016. Information suggests Kilimnik understood that some of the polling data showed that Clinton's negatives were particularly high; that Manafort's plan for victory called for focusing on Clinton's negatives as much as possible; and that given Clinton's high negatives, there was a chance that Trump could win. " "The Committee also sought to understand the purpose of sharing the .polling data, as well as what, if anything, Kilimnik did with the information about internal Trump polling and strategy. As noted, Gates understood that Kilimnik would share the polling data with Ukrainian oligarchs affiliated with the OB and with Deripaska. However, Gates ultimately claimed that he did not trust Kilimnik, that he did not know why Manafort was sharing internal polling data with him, and that Kilimnik could have given the data to anyone.460 " ^^And yet again, for the very, very slow, it has since been confirmed that Kilimnik was involved in the election interference scheme (and the 2020 encore) and took the intel directly to his associates in Russian intelligence. See the Treasury sanctions. Jeebus. Kilimnik shared the data directly with Russian intelligence while they were running their election interference scheme. We can't exactly ask the Russians, but how do YOU suppose they used polling and strategy data that was the exact information they needed to interfere effectively? Manafort took extraordinary steps to do all this secretly and untraceably. And he lied about it over and over again after he was caught. And was pardoned for it. It's a mystery (for very stupid people). It's like secretly giving a stalker a knife and a map to find their stalkee and then pretending to be innocent when the victim is stabbed at that location. "Where's the evidence of collusion? Hyuk. I was just secretly giving a gift and some information to my associate. Hyuk hyuk."

You can't even keep your lies straight. You've already acknowledged that they also shared polling. They shared detailed campaign strategy AND sensitive, proprietary polling data. This is now, I think the third time I've posted from the report, for the very slow among us: "Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska, and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information. The Committee had limited insight into Kilimnik's communications with Manafort and into Kilimnik's communications with other individuals connected to Russian influence operations, all of whom used communications security practices. The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election." ^^The hacks which, BTW, were fed back to Roger Stone through Wikileaks to further coordinate the attack on Clinton. And again, for the very slow among us, it has since been confirmed--not just suspected, but confirmed--that Kilimnik did, in fact, take the Manafort intel straight to the Kremlin. Again, you'd have to be willfully obtuse or massively stupid to think that Manafort didn't know why his Russian comrade wanted Manafort to keep feeding him information in secret. This is not dinner chit-chat. It's coordinated, clandestine information sharing. The Trump campaign worked to help the Russians target Americans with campaign interference to tilt the election to Trump. It happened. Deal with it. Again, jackass, I'm not covering up any blunder. You can't KNOW what is in a person's mind. We must make inferences and assumptions based on external action. Which is exactly what I explained to you before you posted your google scavenger hunt prize. Like, literally anyone in this thread can click the back arrows and see that you are lying. Except that it's an exact match to the definition you shared, lol. The only way it could be more obviously collusion is if Manafort and Kilimnik had grown mustaches for twirling. You can lie till you die, and it won't change this recorded history. My life is pretty great. Lovely family. Nice house. Big job. Unlike you, I have more important things to do post on this forum 20 or 30 times a day. And I don't doubt that you're more intelligent educated than a 5th grader. But it's all for naught, as you're wildly dishonest. There's no value in being intelligent or educated if you simply put those gifts to work spinning lies and making the world a shittier place.

You are being (I hope for your sake) deliberately--and massively--obtuse. Sharing information about campaign strategy isn't only useful for targeting the Trump campaign. It's useful (and this is a YUGE "duh!") for coordinating your efforts. Which was the entire point. The Russians were trying to help Trump win and Manafort was trying to help them. Deeply skeptical that you are telling the truth about 35 years ago, because you casually lying now about something I said just the same day. It's right there in writing. Just go look. Again, this is what I posted: "And you are surely dumber than you present if you think guilt is only established if authorities can prove what was in a defendant's brain. We have always relied on the actions of the individuals under suspicion to reveal what we can reasonably assume they knew." ^^WTF do you think I am explaining to you there? We don't have to know what is in a person's mind through confession. We can infer it. Jeebus. And in this case it's unbelievably obvious that Manafort that manafort knew that his actions were wrong. Clandestine meeting, a shared email account, encrypted messages, burner phones, and other means of concealing the communication that you, stupidly, still try to represent as casual and insignificant. These were NOT casual meetings and they were certainly significant enough for Manafort to take extraordinary steps to conceal. I'm imagining you right now discovering that your husband has a secret burner phone full of text messages to his yoga instructor about when and where he'll be at certain hotels. "No, big deal. Nothing suspicious or incriminating there. She was probably just curious and that information is useless and she could have figured it out in other ways. Hyuk" Complete bullshit. The ONLY way it's not collusion is if you can turn off the reasoning part of your brain and pretend that Manafort didn't know what he was doing. That he went to extraordinary lengths to hide his communications and contacts for no reason. Which beggars belief. ^^This is exactly what I mean when I say you are dishonest. You'd have to be too stupid to tie your shoes to honestly believe that Manafort did not understand how serious his actions were. All of those precautions and protections were NOT just the trappings of a casual conversation. The repeated information deliveries were not just coffee talk. I assume you do not wear velcro shoes, but rather tie your laces. Yet you are so dishonest that you would rather appear unbelievably stupid than to admit what plainly happened. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

That's a lot of taking Enrique. Sounds like you need to hydrate for the weekends.

As you know by now, but continue to lie about, it wasn't just polling data. It was sensitive strategy and targeting data, you know, exactly what the Russians would need to align strategically and more effectively target Americans in key swing states. But you just keep lying. And while you seem super proud of yourself for googling "mens rea" you seem to understand that about as well as anything else, which is to say not at all. People are regularly convicted of crimes without confessing, because their knowledge and state of mind can be inferred from their actions. That's why I explained at some length the number of behaviors Manafort exhibited which make it painfully obvious that he knew what he was doing was wrong. One does not establish multilayer secrecy protocols unless there is activity and information one must keep hidden. And then lying about it over and over again. (You and Manafort seem to be cut from the same cloth in that regard.) It takes a MASSIVE willing suspension of disbelief to pretend that Manafort didn't know exactly what he was doing. And, again, get yourself a damn dictionary. Collusion may not be a legal term, but Manafort's behavior is the very definition of collusion. Sorry, "kid" but your obsequious self debasement is of no value in an actual debate.

Have you considered that Roberts may want nothing to do with the Biden family? They may have even asked Hunter to terminate parental rights. That sort of situation is not at all uncommon. It's happened in my extended family, even. Anyway, I don't know what's going on there either, but you folks are pretty quick to call it "snubbing" when you don't really know what the situation is with the family dynamics.

Are you illiterate? It says right in the paragraph to which you responded that Kilimnik passed the Manafort intel to Russian intelligence. That is, after all, the entire job of an intelligence officer. Jeebus. And you are surely dumber than you present if you think guilt is only established if authorities can prove what was in a defendant's brain. We have always relied on the actions of the individuals under suspicion to reveal what we can reasonably assume they knew. The evidence is indisputably collusion, no matter how much you lie about it. -- Think for a moment just how farking far you've gone to defend and dismiss what is plainly written in official reports. Manafort is feeding Kilimnik information through elaborate secrecy methods and then lying about feeding him information and you want to pretend it's about two buddies just talking strategy. Holy shite, you're unbelievably dishonest.

Yeah, casually talking with somebody about your strategy is exactly like having secretive communications channels to feed targeting information to people engaged in the Russian election interference campaign. lol You're pathetic.