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Lobbying is not legislation. There are so many things that are "influential in Canadian politics, educational institutions, and corporations" that one cannot keep track. So, what is new? Nothing. There has always been lobbying by one group or another and that is how the world turns. And there always will be. No platform needed, just a phone and a lunch restaurant and bar for after work drinks LOL If you didn't know this then you really have not been paying attention.

I don't and I won't.

I never once said SDG was not a real thing. You again, are making shit up. I said they were, and factually are, principals and goals of WEF. A forum, not a legitlative body or even an association. None of the SDG's are binding in any way to anyone, let alone to any country. One persons facts are another persons propaganda. I know what side you chose

Nein, ich beobachte nur die Dummheit und ihre Folgen

No head in the sand and not wearing glasses either. Just being realistic. Call it what you want but there was no martial law,. You clearly do not know what martial law is. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/martial law I do not need a pass for anything.Just because I am not on your paranoid train does not in any way mean I do not understand what is going on. I just don't see it through your whatever coloured glasses. By all means, be a skeptic, but do not expect all folks to follow your path. I certainly don't and many here do not either and I dare to suggest, most Canadians don't as well. We are allowed to follow our own paths regardless show dismayed you get about it.

Not even a bit worried. I am not all paranoid. Canada's trade and military and other agreements are not all Trudeau, we have been signing deals for many decades. None of what you are trying to portray is new or newsworthy.

So, back to topic of truckers Debacle. Seems Lich has once again failed in her attempt at getting bail even super lawyer Greenspon could not make a case so, there she sits. 48 days in jail so far. Hope being a fool on a fools errand was worth it. Thing is, she will probably get off but will have had to spend all this time in jail. Time she will never get back, ever. And when it is all over, if she even get nailed for littering, her past will haunt her. "Lich was ordered to remain in jail to await trial for her role in the protest that paralyzed downtown Ottawa in February, after the court decided she had breached her bail conditions. " https://ottawa.citynews.ca/local-news/tamara-lich-once-again-argues-for-freedom-from-jail-at-bail-review-hearing-5620973?utm_source=SND&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=AutoPilot

There is no one here that could even begin to claim expertise in economics, let alone world macro economics. The old saying that money makes the world go round does have merit though

No response to criticism. My response was to balderdash. The paranoia around WEF is what is frightening. WEF proclamations are nothing, just banter. Actually, I have never heard nor read a WEF proclamation. It would hold no weight nor consequence nor authority. Just talk. Any government can legislate almost everything. Hopefully our government with its checks and balances will not end in that and before you start, no one in Canada has lost any rights or freedoms. If they had, there would be many many more in jail or in courts than the few fools that broke small bylaws

My point exactly. WEF is a "Forum". Nothing binding. Take what is said and use it or not. No consequence either way. Making it more than it is, is just being paranoid.

I just read something that makes sense. Following your train of thought. "People are going to take drugs, whether is it prescription, pure heroin or synthetics. Legalizing like with marijuana or decriminalizing will have consequences. There will be a surge in overdoses. A much higher percentage of the population that does not contribute anything to society will indulge. Also then, the bunches of drug dealers will be looking for different crimes to commit because the government has taken over their jobs. So, who really knows what will happen but letting it happen and then realizing it was mistake will be impossible to reverse."

What a bunch of conspiracy theorist shit that is.

It seems to be your "matter of fact", not everyones and therein lies the problem. You are not the be all end all authority. I have already stated that Canada has "officially agreed to join and collaborate with many organizations, NATO, USMCA, CPTPP and other Free Trade agreements just to name a few. " Not sure what it is that you want said?. As for what is good for the average person, well, that is up to the average person to decide, not you. You are just being argumentative for your sake.

Look, I am trying to have a civil conversation. You don't need to agree with me and I don't have to agree with you. I don't "parrot"anyone. If you would consider not everyone is on the same page as you, maybe you wouldn't come across as such an A hole?? Trying to converse with you is beyond a challenge. You are not the fountain of knowledge and neither am I, so we can both have our opinions and not be wrong.

What are you asking me to prove? He has been to many meetings with world leaders and does not get the "press" he used to. He does not get the attention he used to. It seems he is just another 3rd world person now. Australia was pissed at him and Canada over the pacific trade issues.. The US is definitely not considering Canada as a partner anymore. Even you say twitter demeans him. So, what do you want? I am sure there are more vehement Trudeau haters that can put together a lengthy list.

To answer your question, being a Trudeau hater does not put you on the fringe at all. So there is no satisfaction to be had. Trudeau has proven himself to be more self absorbed than a leader for this country. His stature amongst the world leader has fallen to very low levels and by doing so, he has dragged Canada and Canada's reputation with him. I did not vote for him last election, I voted conservative knowing full well that the conservative leader was unworthy but, better tan NDP or liberal. In my opinion, Trudeau won by default and Canadians had very little choice. Yes, he seems to be hated right now but the closer we get to the next election, the more he will schmooze, give things and be back on the liked list. Unfortunately, Pierre Poliwhatever seems the front runner on the Con side but to me, he is just blowing smoke up everyones arse and has no real vision. You cannot claim to be a leader when all you do is throw stones at the opposition and that is all Pierre does (in his leadership campaign and at Trudeau).

And the WEF is also a forum. The UN is not a forum, it is a nofficaly organization that Canad a and most of the worlds nations have signed up for. Not a forum in any sense. Canada has officially agreed to join and collaborate with many organizations, NATO, USMCA, CPTPP and other Free Trade agreements just to name a few. None are forums they are binding agreements. As I mentioned, Canada is not a manufacturing country, we are a resource supplier. We need to belong to those organizations to get products we need to function and to survive. How can Canada give away sovereignty without being conquered or losing a war to someone? By making trade agreements for our needs? Or by participating on organizations that may be beneficial to us? That attending forums that may provide ideas? That is not giving away sovereignty, that is strengthening and solidifying our sovereignty. Do you have a better more viable way? .

Not paying attention to what? Every leader of every country has their own issues to resolve. The WEF is a forum to share ideas and ideology. Like I said, it has a philosophy, not regulations, polices or. procedures that need or are required to follow. What is a good idea for one country or jurisdiction may or is not even feasible for another but, there is no reason not to discuss it. The problem with you conspiracy theorists is that you are so narrow minded and fixated on your own ideas and principals that no one can have alternatives or different ideas or other ideas. You folks won't listen or even consider something other than your view. I see this on this forum all the time. Your way or dissenters are assholes that know nothing. I look at WEF (and a myriad of other groups like it) as a gathering to share ideas. Not to force any country to do anything.

Yes, and at times, mine are overloaded, as I said. The price of gas is the only commodity that changes on a daily basis as opposed to all other on the futures market. Why? We (the collective we) allowed it to be so. WEF, as I understand it, is just a forum with a philosophical targets. It holds no authority. It is a forum to discuss. Are there points that can be taken away? For sure. Lots of very smart people at the forum. Will all the agenda items be enacted? I seriously doubt it. Yes, world, corporate and banking leaders go to the forum to discuss issues that affect world wide economic issues. The economic issues are world wide and affect Canada. Witness the war in Ukraine where grain, gas and other commodities prices shoot up world wide or a hurricane in Louisiana shutting down refiners and Canada's gas prices go through the roof. China bans Canadian products and prices go up instead of selling surplus in Canada and our prices go down. The unfortunate situation is that Canada is not an economic force, is not a manufacturing country and only exports resources and therefore is very much beholding to what the World is wanting and doing. So, is WEF the source of our poor economy or are we suffering a self inflicted wound?

My senses are overloaded and sometimes just numb. What I want to believe is not something you may want to believe. Thing is, what we want to believe is up to us, individually. Look at this forum as a perfect example. No civil discussion can take place because of adamant firm beliefs. Cannot question or play devils advocate without incurring the wrath of some. I do look around. I do go buy gas. I do go buy groceries. I do go shopping. World leaders all say things to their voting base. They say some thing one day and another opposite the next. They all blow smoke up everyone's asses. They all piss people off for the first 2 years in their tenure then they open the wallets and give everyone anything they want so they can get re-elected. The world turns around like it has in all "democracies".

Not sure what to believe in all this. The article you linked also has links to a BBC report.: "We start with the revival of the baseless conspiracy theory, known as the 'Great Reset', which claims a group of world leaders orchestrated the pandemic to take control of the global economy. The conspiracy theory has its origins in a genuine plan entitled 'The Great Reset', drawn up by the World Economic Forum (WEF), the organisers of an annual conference for high-profile figures from politics and business. The plan explores how countries might recover from the economic damage caused by the coronavirus pandemic." "The WEF recovery plan has been interpreted as sinister, first by fringe conspiracy theory groups on social media, and then by prominent conservative commentators - prompting tens of thousands of interactions across Facebook and Twitter. "" A video from August, which now has close to three million views on YouTube, believes only Donald Trump can thwart this secret plot, which uses Covid-19 to bring the US economy to its knees so the "reset" can begin and people will be "begging" for vaccines. But the suggestion that politicians planned the virus, or are using it to destroy capitalism is wholly without evidence. So too is the notion that the World Economic Forum has the authority to tell other countries what to do, or that it is coordinating a secret cabal of world leaders." https://www.bbc.com/news/55017002

Thank you very much. I appreciate the synopsis. SDG is just a philosophy. Not reality. I never heard or read Trudeau saying anything like that. Maybe by extrapolating a number of statements you conclude that?

No. All you here hyping and whining should be able to tell what they know but it seems they cannot .... maybe it is just whining because they really can't. Prove yourselves. An opportunity for the blowhards to prove their worth and beliefs or just whimper and whine? Who the F is Kaus Schwab? And he quips too? LOL

Yes to both. Never heard the term "great reset" on the news or in newspapers Wanna educate me? I asked once or twice or thrice before. But hey, if you don't know, it's OK.

All credit cards can be maxed out by the individual. To reign in debt, the individual needs to stop spending (just like government). Now, the question is... will they?