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  1. On 1/16/2022 at 9:10 AM, Nationalist said:

    The OP is a nicely researched soliloquy. But it's also sopping wet horse kaka. Compare intact families of caucasians to black or native. You'll find a major cause of this violence there.

    Then there's the idiotic immigration policies of this Pixie-Dust administration. Gawd damn stupid and dangerous. 

    Try something new. Research THE CAUSES of the gun violence. 

    White nationalist colonizers feeling threatened?  

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  2. 2 hours ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

    There was in fact a mistake done by an anthropologist research team. Anomalies first taken for corpses were actually... roots from trees.

    Interesting; https://www.dorchesterreview.ca/blogs/news/in-kamloops-not-one-body-has-been-found?s=09

    AFTER SEVEN MONTHS of recrimination and denunciation, where are the remains of the children buried at the Kamloops Indian Residential School?

    The Canadian Press has just honoured the children of residential schools as the “Person of the Year 2021.” The huge media story last summer grew out of the scanning of part of the site in the British Columbia interior where the school operated from 1890 to 1978. The “discovery” was first reported last May 27 by Tk'emlúps te secwépemc First Nation Chief Rosanne Casimir after an anthropologist, Sarah Beaulieu, used ground-penetrating radar in a search for the remains of children alleged by some to be buried there. She is a young anthropologist, an instructor in Anthropology and Sociology at the University of the Fraser Valley since 2018. Her preliminary report is actually based on depressions and abnormalities in the soil of an apple orchard near the school – not on exhumed remains. According to Chief Casimir, these “missing children” represent “undocumented deaths.” Their presence, she says, has long been “knowledge” in the community and “some were as young as three years old.”[1]

    From new research revealed at a July 15 press conference last year, the anthropologist scaled back the potential discovery from 215 to 200 “probable burials.” Having “barely scratched the surface,” she found many “disturbances in the ground such as tree roots, metal and stones.” The “disruptions picked up in the radar,” she says, led her to conclude that the sites “have multiple signatures that present like burials.” But she cannot confirm that until the site is excavated – if it is ever done. A community spokesperson says the full report “cannot” be released to the media.[2] For Chief Casimir, “it is not yet clear whether the continuing work on the Kamloops site will involve excavation.”

    The Kamloops “discovery” of 2021 created a major sensation in Canada and abroad. Based on the preliminary assessment and before any remains were found or any credible report made, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau immediately referred to “a dark and shameful chapter” in Canadian history.[3] British Columbia Premier John Horgan said he was “horrified and heartbroken” to learn of a burial site with 215 children that highlights the violence and consequences of the residential school system.[4] Several other Aboriginal communities and media outlets then followed up with references to unmarked graves.

    On May 30, the federal government lowered the flags on all its buildings to half-staff. Later, it instituted a new holiday to honour "missing" children and survivors of residential schools. Spontaneously, clusters of shoes and orange shirts and other paraphernalia were placed on church steps in many cities or on the steps of legislatures in memory of the little victims. Around the country, churches were burned or vandalized. Statues were spray-painted and pulled down in apparent retaliation for the fate of the children. The statue of Queen Victoria in front of the Manitoba Legislature was defaced and pulled down. Montreal’s statue of Sir John A. Macdonald, Canada's first prime minister, was knocked down, his detached bronze head symbolically rolling on the ground.      

    In the wake of unsubstantiated claims by Aboriginal leaders, several media outlets amplified and hyped the story by alleging that the bodies of 215 children had been found, adding that “thousands” of children had “gone missing” from residential schools and that parents had not been informed. The undisturbed sites even became “mass graves” where bodies were dumped in a jumble.

    This supposed “news” made the rounds in all sorts of media, tarnishing Canada’s self-image and reputation abroad. Under the title “Horrible History: Mass Grave of Indigenous Children Reported in Canada,” the May 28 New York Times, even when updated on Oct. 5, reported that “For decades, most [sic] Indigenous children in Canada were taken from their families and forced into boarding schools. A large number [sic] never returned home, their families given only vague explanations, or none at all.” The indigenous community “has found evidence of what happened to some of its missing children: a mass grave containing the remains of 215 children on the grounds of a former residential school.”[5]

    Canada: Remains of 215 children found buried near Kamloops Indian Residential School - CNN

    Report: Over 600 bodies found at Indigenous school in Canada - ABC News (go.com)

    Kamloops Indian Residential School - Wikipedia

    Canada mourns as remains of 215 children found at indigenous school - BBC News

    215 bodies discovered at former residential school for Indigenous children in Canada - ABC News (go.com)

    Canada mass grave: As country mourns discovery of children's remains on grounds of Kamloops Indian Residential School, action is demanded - CNN

    Canada: 751 unmarked graves found at residential school - BBC News

     

    Fucking liar.

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  3. On 1/3/2022 at 2:59 PM, Nationalist said:

    Interesting.

    I grew up with Catholicism. I know my Mom insisted on the occasional visit to church, at least partially for the social benefits. As a young lad, I remember wondering if it felt right to me, to be worshipping a dead guy tacked to a crucifix? I still find it rather gruesome. Did the character we know as Jesus even exist? Probably. Could he walk on water? Doubtful.

    As a collage lad I found myself dabbling in occultism. Read much of Crowley's works, Poe, Waite (sp?), explored the Golden Dawn, the Masons and the Illuminati. It was about that time that I realized the incantations of black magic are very similar in mechanics to the average prayer...except to differing ends. One attempts to create an intense feeling of loathing and personal power, while the other attempts to create an intense feeling of love and community. BOTH USE and/or TARGET our feelings...our conscious and unconscious selves...our "souls".

    So did Jesus go to Heaven or Hell? Is there a Heaven and Hell? I'm not sure either exists actually...except in our "souls". We CREATE our own Heaven or Hell. When our bodies die, our "souls" have to deal with our CREATION.

    Don't make bad karma.

    So stop doing so.

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  4. On 1/21/2022 at 6:22 PM, OftenWrong said:

    Your pathetic name calling in such a discussion is beyond dull and boring.

    What I said here both times is there is no cause. Sorry if you cannot fathom it but you are only thinking in a dualistic way. It’s either AC, or DC. And I’m startin to think it’s AC around here, if you know what I mean. ;) 

    ...

    Morality, you say? Fill your boots.

     I go with those who understand good and evil are part of the same whole. We have mastered it, transcended it. We hyperboreans...

    So you're gay? Or what?

  5. On 1/25/2020 at 2:01 AM, Marocc said:

    Typically parents are considered to be primarily responsible for that their child is at a healthy weight.

    The parents are enormously affected by the medical care, the food industry, education and the media.

    If the parents were not doing their job, who would be responsible in taking action?

    If a child is overweight, how should a parent go about dealing with it in the correct manner?

     

    See COVID deniers and ask them.

  6. On 1/18/2022 at 11:54 AM, QuebecOverCanada said:

    What I find funny with your take is that you think all things stay the same all throughout History. So for instance, you think that Leftists don't cling to power and want wealth redistribution, yet the most unequal States in America at least are the liberal ones.

    Here is a take from the New York Times;

    Also, median household income is much higher for the 'side of the poor' that are represented in your presentation of the Left which is very wrong;

    'Today, the $61,000 median income of blue districts substantially exceeds the $53,000 median income of red ones, reversing the order from 2008.

    The average gross domestic product for Democratic districts, near parity with Republican ones in 2008, has grown 50% higher. Output per worker has followed the same pattern.'

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/19/economic-divide-in-the-us-is-becoming-as-stark-as-its-politics.html

    Concentrated wealth has always viewed anything that would question their wealth redistribution scam as "redistribution", yeah, we all know that.  Don't you know CNBC is fake news?  Review The Powell Memorandum.  

  7. On 1/21/2022 at 11:10 PM, jbander1A said:

      They will get him for tax evasion minimally and probably a list of other felonies. The tax evasion charge is easy because it simply is numbers and if they don't add up which I guaranty they won't, He will be found guilty of tax evasion. HE runs just another organized crime group with hired shills and his criminal family.
        The one that will be the most fun is Jan6 that will take half the Republican party down with him. Look at the list of people who won't talk to the investigation and Erics 500 5th Amendment pleas will not wash out , To the man everyone that isn't complying is just part of the attempted overthrow of this country and democracy. They can't go there and tell the truth, They would be admitting the worst anti American criminal act that has ever existed .

    We in the US have had over a half a century to observe this attention whoring, life-long deadbeat trust fund baby grifter, racist dickhead son of a KKKlan supporter.  We know what he is, some of us approve of what he is, and he speaks to america's darkest, racist, pedophile, feudalistic urges; the quintessential corrupt, entitled, ugly american.  To see him worshiped by some Canadians as well does not bode well for your society.  Don is what happens when an entitled concentrated wealth aristocracy bears fruit that falls not far from the tree.  And his spawn from 3 different baby mommas are even worse.  One of whom at least he sodomized.  

  8. 47 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

    Getting the vaccination does not mean your not getting covid, it means your chances of dying from covid is much less. So yes everyone can get it and yes everyone can spread it....

    and we were told in the early stages those shots had 90% or greater efficacy and 2 shots and you be good, , and they also said they were  safe...It seems we were either misled or the research was not 100 % accurate. 

    No, not everyone, that's bullshit and you've just indicated that you refuse to read and grasp the primary peer-reviewed research.  It (vaccination) also retards the spreading thereof.  Fool proof?  No.  Who ever told you that?  And why were you sucked into that mindfuck?  What happened was, as with now, you are relying upon someone else to do your due diligence.  The media?  And as anyone who even remotely understands how the scientific method works knows, we (well some of us) are learning about a NOVEL, EMERGING retroviral pandemic in real time, which is lag time.  And so long as we endeavor to keep COVID alive, each new variant spun off will be a new beast with its own learning curve.

    I know what the US military has decided on this "issue" Army Guy.  What has the Canadian military decided?

  9. 1 hour ago, jbander1A said:

    Of course they are spreading Covid, after their covid shots they are 93% protected that means that 7% are not protected and can get and spread the virus. After 6 months the shots will protect only about 60% of the people who got the shot, so now 40 percent are unprotected and can get and spread the virus. For a vaccine that's great percentages AND SHOWS how good the vaccine is , but anti's are so fucking dumb and have absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about as far as the Virus is concerned that you come on and waste are time with your garbage.

    Not to mention that if the virus is contracted and one survives, that immunity wanes over time as well.  Gee, wonder why vaccination immune response does.  These people are behaving as if their mothers told them vegetables were good for them; the whining is diaper filling.  When one of these idiots proclaims, "I trust my immune system", ask them how that works.  Pretty funny stuff.  I don't care if they vax or not, and I don't care if they gather in large groups indoors with like-minded individuals.  That's what social distancing has always been for.  I avoid hookers, meth and crack heads for the same reasons.

  10. On 5/6/2021 at 4:25 PM, Right To Left said:

    Should be simple: you lock down for real; test and trace those who might have been exposed; prevent those who have the disease from spreading it to others, and you don't end mask mandates and other protective measures until the disease is eradicated! 

    If those procedures were followed elsewhere besides the Far East, we wouldn't have a global pandemic today! 

    And those idiots who want to downplay Covid-19 need to consider that death rates are many times higher than official statistics provided...even over here, let alone in India or African countries where they have no idea whether Covid-19 is spreading or not in some of the poor and more isolated corners of the Congo and West Africa. 

    CBC was just running a story on the 12:00 news about a relatively young mother who has cancer, but can't get in and have an operation in the near term because emergency wards are full of Covid cases again! How do we factor in the people who are dying because our decrepit and declining health care systems are putting the lives of non-Covid cases at risk?

    In the States too.  People with other conditions are having care put off/rationed because of too many cases of COVID swamping the healthcare system/facilities in various locations.  Trump flat out said hey, if we don't test, we won't find it.  Like it wouldn't exist if no one tested.  He's that fucking dumb,

  11. On 4/25/2021 at 10:17 PM, Right To Left said:

    Brace yourself!  A recent Bloomberg opinion piece by Andreas Kluth throws shade on the notions that are continually recirculated that yes, Covid-19 is bad, but don't worry, it will be over soon and then we can go back to normal. BECAUSE:

    With coronavirus mutations pitted against vaccinations in a global arms race, we may never go back to normal.

    Conservatives and rightwingers of all stripes hate change, but no matter how much conservatives cry and throw tantrums, along with throwing their toys at us for being in the way or perceived to be in the way of what they want, the world isn't going back to the way it was in 2019! 

    Anyway, back to Bloomberg:

     

    As long as we have COVID deniers and willing carriers for fweedumb, yeah, it will be with us.  Anyone know anyone with polio?  Yeah, well.

  12. On 2/4/2021 at 11:26 AM, Infidel Dog said:

    You can only control what you can control. VPN's have some use. Not being under the thumb of the Twitterati or FascistBook has some use, and so on. 

    We can deal with Microsoft later.

    For now, there's also the problem of the control of information. The other side almost has it. We need to inform ourselves of what they won't tell us.

    I use right wing archive sites. Here are some recommendations. One doesn't have to believe everything one finds there but it's worth having options:

    The First 3 are Canadian:

    Blazing Cat Fur

    Vlad Tepes

    Small Dead Animals

    Then there are the Drudge alternatives:

    The Liberty Daily: It's like Drudge used to be, maybe, but with a sense of humour. 

    Citizens Free Press: Quick easy links on a scroll. I'm hearing this is the one that's catching on the quickest with the Drudgeheads forced off the platform by its new left wing bias.

    Populist Press: If you've finished with the first 2 and are still looking there's this.

    And here are a bunch of random link archive sites with alternative info to the Corporates.

    Lucianne.com

    What Finger

    The Bongino Report

    Revolver News

    Conservative Playlist

     

    You can only control what you can control by canceling the cancelers?  How dizzy of you.

  13. On 7/17/2021 at 11:34 AM, Shady said:

    Most of this is complete nonsense.  The odds of getting covid if you’re fully vaccinated is extremely low.  The odds from getting severely sick from it are infinitesimal.  Stop spreading fear.  Regardless, you cannot force somebody to take a drug they don’t want to take.  People have fundamental rights, and that doesn’t change for virus with a 99% survival rate.

    How did we ever get past the 1918 pandemic when there were no vaccines? You should really look into that.

    No one has forced anyone in the US to take any drug they wanted to dodge with the possible exception of fluoride for tooth decay.  You might want to review the death toll of the 1918 pandemic.

    Current US death toll 865,310 and counting.

    Home - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)

     

     

     

  14. On 11/7/2021 at 12:37 PM, Infidel Dog said:

    Speaking of links, there's something I've been hearing about over on the right lately. I don't know...might be a misrepresentation of facts. Might be a nothing that quickly vanishes. Or it might be true. That happens too with stories like this. More than most of you realize.

    Basically it's like this. The claim is something weird started to be noticed in Australia about a week or so ago. Emergency wards started piling up and they can't blame covid:

    The insinuation is this isn't covid. It's adverse reactions to the Vaccine.

    Now others claim this phenomena is spreading across the globe:

    https://noqreport.com/2021/11/07/its-the-vaccines-it-has-to-be-adverse-reactions-to-covid-jabs-likely-to-blame-for-hospitals-suddenly-being-flooded-across-the-globe/

    So is there anything to this? If there is it can only be kept a secret so long. If it's not you can point your finger at it later as a failed conspiracy.

    For now I just find it kind of interesting.

    Well we know why ours are in the US.  And we all know our aristocracy tried to tell us it was all a hoax until they couldn't any longer.  For the economy.  And we know insinuation is how the rumor mill is primed.  "Some people say" and shit.

  15. On 10/15/2021 at 1:52 PM, Infidel Dog said:

    Somebody was asking me for links to a specific aspect of the Vaccine debate. I decided to offer up a larger archive for use of all who might be interested in why some decide to remain non-compliant.

    Efficacy of Vaccines:

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/covid-vax-boosters-recommended-by-white-house-for-all-americans/

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vaccines-pfizer-moderna-delta-biden-e9be4bb0-3d10-4f56-8054-5410be357070.html

    https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-vaccine-data-cdc-biden-d6f295f2-5205-4c44-bdf3-f7eab66b4873.html

    https://trialsitenews.com/project-salus-study-5-6m-vaccinated-medicare-beneficiaries-waning-mrna-vaccine-effectiveness-raises-questions/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/14/covid-israel-data-vaccine-efficacy-511777

    https://basedunderground.com/2021/09/14/study-shows-vaccine-will-enhance-delta-infectivity/

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/07/23/pfizer-shot-just-39-effective-against-delta-infection-but-largely-prevents-severe-illness-israel-study-suggests/?sh=41e44246584f

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/18/fully-vaccinated-account-for-73-of-recent-covid-19-deaths-and-data-shows-fully-vaccinated-are-over-5-times-more-likely-to-die-if-infected-with-covid-19/

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/20/latest-public-health-england-report-reveals-the-covid-jabs-dont-work-as-the-fully-vaccinated-account-for-21-percent-of-covid-infections-but-58-percent-of-all-deaths/

    https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/jun/29/rand-paul-rips-delta-variant-fearmongers-cites-08-/

    https://truthbasedmedia.com/2021/08/11/biden-official-says-new-study-is-wake-up-call-after-pfizers-efficacy-plummets-to-42-as-delta-variant-takes-hold/

    https://twitter.com/Golden_Pup/status/1425461280027066373?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1425561856811454471|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvladtepesblog.com%2F

    https://rumble.com/vm936v-whistleblower-nurse-destroys-delta-narrative-vaccinated-patients-fill-hospt.html

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ontario-er-doctor-resigns-over-mandatory-vaccines-and-falsehoods/

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-covid-19-outbreak-in-bc-indigenous-community-fuels-concerns-over/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-60-of-covid-hospitalizations-in-older-americans-among-fully-vaccinated-govt-data-reveals/

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262139v1

    https://humanevents.com/2021/09/17/study-covid-vaccine-6-times-riskier-for-teenage-boys-than-covid-itself/

    https://humanevents.com/2021/09/17/study-covid-vaccine-6-times-riskier-for-teenage-boys-than-covid-itself/

    https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/vaccinated-people-singapore-make-up-three-quarters-recent-covid-19-cases-2021-07-23/

    https://chriswaldburger.substack.com/p/bombshell-uk-data-destroys-entire

    https://welovetrump.com/2021/07/31/highly-vaccinated-iceland-gibraltar-destroy-covid-19-vaccine-passport-narrative/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN

    https://conservativeplaybook.com/2021/08/09/blue-counties-in-florida-where-covid-19-vaccination-rates-highest-are-driving-that-states-alarming-rate-of-new-infections/

    https://medicaltrend.org/2021/10/10/taiwan-death-from-covid-19-vaccination-exceeds-death-from-covid-19/

    https://www.nbcboston.com/news/coronavirus/massachusetts-new-covid-breakthrough-case-data/2469157/

    https://www.gopusa.com/massachusetts-coronavirus-breakthrough-deaths-73-had-underlying-conditions-median-age-was-82-5/

    https://vidmax.com/video/208017-bombshell-taiwan-health-officials-are-now-re

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/14/covid-booster-shots-important-to-stop-infection-finds-english-study

    https://tv.gab.com/channel/realalexjones/view/science-proves-covid-vaccines-causing-deaths-61671b3b6e911a8d424442f4

    Vaccine Passport inequities:

    https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/covid-vax-boosters-recommended-by-white-house-for-all-americans/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/another-study-confirms-lockdowns-result-in-more-lives-lost-than-saved/

    https://rumble.com/vm7uzj-b.c.-vax-pass-punishes-young-health-care-worker-who-cant-walk-following-mod.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK3hW1GYAQ8

    Delta surges as vaccinations increase:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/covid-19-cases-were-4-times-higher-this-labor-day-weekend-than-last-year-as-delta-continues-to-surge-across-the-us/ar-AAObEnp

    Covid Hysteria Over-hyped:

    https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/30-facts-you-need-to-know-your-covid-cribsheet/

    https://notthebee.com/article/covid-theater-a-personal-tale-about-the-gaslighting-of-a-nation-and-its-schoolchildren/

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/follow-the-science-deadly-delta-variant-registers-a-99.9-recovery-rate/

    https://covidreason.substack.com/p/harvard-research-confirms-what-weve

    https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher/status/1448615422127976453Natural Immunity:

     

    https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/

    https://www.rebelnews.com/is_covid_19_a_pandemic_scientist_discusses_canada_s_all_cause_mortality

    https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/08/26/large-israeli-study-natural-immunity-provides-13-times-more-protection-against-delta-than-pfizers-vaccine-does-n411863

    https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/08/comparing-sars-cov-2-natural-immunity-to-vaccine-induced-immunity-reinfections-versus-breakthrough-infections

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/cdc-80-percent-americans-covid-immunity

    https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2101

    Charts:

    https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths_7daydeathsper100k|seven_day_cum_new_deaths_per_100k

    https://web.archive.org/web/20210924082828/https://www.humetrix.com/powerpoint-vaccine.html

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-cases

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/09/02/16/47431349-9951117-image-m-21_1630597004759.jpg

    https://citizenfreepress.com/column-1/stunning-covid-chart-israel-vs-sweden/

    Israel:

    https://noqreport.com/2021/09/14/shocking-report-covid-spike-in-ultra-triple-vaxxed-israel-is-why-dear-leader-biden-enacted-medical-dictatorship/

    https://thelibertydaily.com/media-scrambles-to-explain-away-concerns-about-disturbing-israel-vaccine-efficacy-numbers/

    https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/10/07/more-vaccinated-israelis-getting-covid-than-unvaccinated-israelis/6024490001/

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/israel-e2-80-99s-covid-surge-shows-the-world-what-e2-80-99s-coming-next/ar-AAObmmF

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9951117/Israel-worlds-Covid-hotspot-0-2-population-catching-yesterday.html

    https://archive.fo/SsDD6

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/look-inside-israel-recent-coronavirus-outbreak/5751469

    https://twitter.com/RanIsraeli/status/1423322271503028228

    Transmission:

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210111/Over-half-of-COVID-19-cases-are-spread-by-asymptomatic-carriers-CDC-study-finds.aspx

    https://beckernews.com/3-new-academic-study-confirms-mass-testing-of-asymptomatics-was-a-scam-39812/

    https://www.worldtribune.com/scientists-fully-vaccinated-carry-251-times-the-covid-viral-load-as-unvaccinated/

    https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/10/vaccination-rates-not-linked-to-lower-covid-rates-epidemiology-paper-finds

    Massaging the Data:

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/scottmorefield/2021/09/13/the-atlantic-scoop-almost-half-of-covid-hospitalizations-are-exactly-what-you-suspected-they-were-n2595832

    Ae we not clear yet that media reports are not primary peer-reviewed scientific publications?

  16. 6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

    Better clarify what I'm actually saying because the Prog left has a hard time hearing anything they don't want to hear. They simplify convert it into something they'd prefer to believe.

    I'm not saying the truth about what went wrong with the understanding and handling of covid is starting to penetrate classic liberals' minds therefore the soft left like Bill Maher is therefore always right or now everyone must now agree with anything they ever said.

    I'm saying they are starting to notice they got a lot about the covid thing wrong and they're coming back to join us in the land of the rational. 

    I'll go farther than that. It won't be too long after that, that what think of themselves as moderates or independents start to get it too. Specifically on covid.

    Progs unfortunately will never get it. Most likely, when convenient they'll say they do and always did but the lack of sincerity will drip to a pour so hard even the softer (as in capable of reason) left will be able to tell.

    I find this to be soft at best and the typical "left" versus "right" horseshit that passes for political discourse these days.  Let's keep COVID alive and spinning out variants for spite, who's with me?

  17. 4 hours ago, West said:

    Okay but at this point both the vaxxed and unvaxxed are spreading covid. Just last week the triple vaxxed premier of Saskatchewan who was talking tough about the unvaxxed was up in La Loche giving the community Covid. Now what's the point in saying that a POSITIVE Scott Moe can show his vaccine ID to dine in at a restaurant but a vaccine free person must eat outside? No logic. 

    We also know the risk to certain parts of the population is low. For example, an unvaxxed 20 year old who's healthy is at less risk than a triple vaxxed 60 year old. Why are we demanding that 20 year old take a risk of myocarditis? Why is that risk fine but the unlikely risk of hospitalization due to covid isn't?

    Now I agree there are LIMITED reasons to restrict mobility, such as a known positive person refusing to isolate. However, the vast majority of people SHOULD NOT be locked down. There are significant impacts for that as well such as economic losses, mental health etc whether you choose to accept that or not. 

    "Okay but at this point both the vaxxed and unvaxxed are spreading covid."

    As in equally?  No, just stop.

    Then go find an earlier vaccine which had 100% efficacy.  I'll wait.

    You've yet to cite any of the rubbish you spew as fact.

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