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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:
“However, there are cases where the sovereign or their representative would have a duty to act directly and independently under the doctrine of necessity to prevent genuinely unconstitutional acts.[31][32] As a result, the Crown today primarily functions as a guarantor of continuous and stable governance and a nonpartisan safeguard against abuse of power.[35] The sovereign acts as a custodian of the Crown's democratic powers and a representation of the "power of the people above government and political parties".[36”
It’s very clear to a growing number of people that the ruling party’s policies are counter to the will of the people. More than half the population opposes mandates and restrictions. What’s more, these policies contravene our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Governor General has a duty to tell the PM that he must discuss the pandemic measures with those who oppose them or else, according to her constitutional role, she must dissolve Parliament and force an election. The PM has a route out of this that he’s refusing to take. The public won’t forget if he continues to ignore them.
Enjoy living in your imaginery world.
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10 minutes ago, West said:
The government is abusing power to shut down peaceful protest. No different than Cuba or Venezuela. We are in trouble
500 tickets have been issued. About 100 criminal investigations are underway. The Mayor of Ottawa has declared a State of Emergency. How is that a peaceful protest?
Declaring a state of emergency will allow the Mayor and Police Chief to request help from the provincial government which can request help from the federal government. Many more police may come in and new strategies employed, possibly cutting off the supplies to the occupiers. Possibly they will cut off the movement of people into the occupied zone. There are non life-threatening measures they will probably take. The authorities are bending over backwards to keep everyone safe.
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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
From Wikipedia:
“executive authority remains vested in the Crown and is only entrusted by the sovereign to the government on behalf of the people. This underlines the Crown's role in safeguarding the rights, freedoms, and democratic system of government of Canadians, reinforcing the fact that "governments are the servants of the people and not the reverse".[29][30] Thus, within Canada's constitutional monarchy the sovereign's direct participation in any of these areas of governance is normally limited, with the sovereign typically exercising executive authority only with the advice and consent of the Cabinet of Canada, and the sovereign's legislative and judicial responsibilities largely carried out through the Parliament of Canada as well as judges and justices of the peace.[29] However, there are cases where the sovereign or their representative would have a duty to act directly and independently under the doctrine of necessity to prevent genuinely unconstitutional acts.[31][32] As a result, the Crown today primarily functions as a guarantor of continuous and stable governance and a nonpartisan safeguard against abuse of power.[35] The sovereign acts as a custodian of the Crown's democratic powers and a representation of the "power of the people above government and political parties".[36][37]”
Exactly! Just as I said. The GG acting on behalf of the Crown Or Queen acts only through the advice and consent of Cabinet or Parliament of Canada. The GG does not act on the advice or demands of the public or groups of citizens. Parliament is elected and represents the citizens and therefore any actions must be by Parliament.
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MAYOR DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN OTTAWA JUST NOW
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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:
Ha, you don’t know how Parliamentary democracy works. If the ruling party acts against the interests of the public, the GG can dissolve parliament, forcing an election.
You refuse to accept facts.
Give me one example of when in history of Canada Parliament has been dissolved by the GG without Parliament first defeating the government. Just one example.
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2 minutes ago, West said:
The Queen through the GG can dissolve parliament. Please take a civics class
Not unless it is through the established Constitutional process. A government must first fall in Parliament. The GG cannot dissolve Parliament because of a protest group. This is child's stuff, which you should have learned long ago.
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10 minutes ago, Goddess said:
So is "take this jab or lose your job."
The vast majority of workers have followed the mandates. Challenges by grievances through unions have been lost. Check the news article on MSN.
Workplace vaccine mandates being upheld as challenges largely tossed out, experts say (msn.com)
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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:
The courts are one venue in which the public can challenge policy. Protest and influencing MLA’s in the House of Commons is another. Appealing to the GG and Senate is another.
The public cannot appeal to the GG. She is not elected and has no power to do anything unless a government is defeated in Parliament by our elected representatives in certain conditions. The Senate does not make the laws and cannot overrule existing laws. Protesters can protest to MLA or MPs. But they cannot over throw government as the manifesto of the convoy leaders says is their goal. There is nothing to negotiate with such people.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
The courts are one venue in which the public can challenge policy. Protest and influencing MLA’s in the House of Commons is another.
Peaceful protest is a legitimate avenue. Occupation, illegal actions, and insurrection are not legitimate. What is going on in Ottawa is not peaceful process.
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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:
You’re just wrong. The government isn’t respecting the constitution and has policies that run counter to the will of more than half the population. If they start clearing out protestors, that will be a declaration of war by the government against its public. Neither the police nor the army will support that. They are loyal to the Crown, not Trudeau.
If people don't think the mandates are constitutional, they can go to court and challenge them. That is how our system works, not by occupation by thugs and insurrection. That will never be accepted by Canadians or the government. I suspect there are some anarchists who would like to start a civil war because they are depraved evil sorts. But if they try, the full force of the authority and the sword will come down on them.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
Ha, if Trudeau attempts this, it will mark the end of his career as a politician. It could lead to the dissolution of Confederation, because the West won’t accept it. Either will rural Ontario and a good portion of urban Canada. People come to Canada for freedom, not oppression.
The majority do not support insurrection. This has to end or the government will be forced to act. The longer it goes on, the more people will see the government has no choice. Maybe that is why Trudeau is not acting right away. Time changes things.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
Are we seeing the government turn on its own citizens for exercising their constitutional rights? Shouldn’t the Governor General be talking to the PM about addressing the fair concerns of the massive protests against mandates and restrictions? If Trudeau refuses to meet with organizers and welcome an open dialogue on pandemic policies, it would be reasonable and important for the Governor General to dissolve Parliament and force an election.
The organizers want to overthrow the government and set up a dictatorship of their own. They demand all restrictions and health measure be ended. Their demands are completely outlandish and bordering on sedition. They leave the government no choice. There is no way the government can negotiate with a group of anarchists and come to any resolution. The health measures are not something that can be dictated by such a group. They left the government with no choice but to reject them. It is kind of like the FLQ crisis where the FLQ took a cabinet minister of Quebec hostage and killed him. This will not end well for the occupiers.
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I don't see this ending well for the occupiers. Trudeau has been neglecting his responsibility to act. He should examine what his father did in 1970 during the FLQ crisis and learn how his father acted. PM Pierre Trudeau declared the war measures act, sent in the army, and arrested hundreds of people. If the Ottawa police chief has said repeatedly this is an insurrection and they do not have the power or resources to end it, the federal government really has no choice. There is no other method to end a large insurrection other than using emergency measures and the army.
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3 minutes ago, West said:
Nothing illegal about the protest. Its a public street.
You're kidding of course. You know nothing about what is legal and illegal. Again how old are you?? I would guess maybe 10 or 12 years old.
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49 minutes ago, West said:
Looks like the Ottawa police are threatening to charge people for feeding and bringing supplies to people exercising their right to peaceful protest.
True third world stuff going on in Ottawa now. Leftists have turned Canada into a third world dictatorship.. sick folks, folks
It's not a "peaceful protest". It is an illegal occupation. So you're ok with the people of Ottawa being held hostage, threatened, harassed, intimidated, and assaulted with noise. The people are being used as hostages by a group of thugs trying to force the government to give them their way. It will never work.
The police announced they have issued 450 tickets in the last 24 hours and 100 investigations are underway.
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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:
Force feeding your citizens a steady stream of false fear for 2 years is worse.
Why do you think the citizens of Ottawa should be treated like this? What did they do to deserve this?
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31 minutes ago, sharkman said:
This just in: the Freedom Convoy organizers have in their hands the zoom video that exposes the Ottawa mayor and his staff as directly involved in getting Go Fund Me to shut down the Convoy fund. Pat King showed it on his face book page. Things are heating up.
Ottawa has now made it illegal to refuel the trucks that are in Ottawa streets.
Elon Musk has come out condemning Go Fund Me for shutting down the convoy page when they kept open the BLM page when they were raising money for the Seattle city block take over.
Elon Musk sounds like another radical Trumpster. Now we know where the money is coming from...the far right Trump crowd in the U.S. Glad the Go Fund Me had enough sense to shut it down. They learned from the Ottawa police that there were lots of illegal acts going on. There are 50 investigations of criminals acts underway. Go Fund Me should hold the money because they will need it to pay the millions of dollars in legal settlements from a class action lawsuit now being launched against the convoy organizers by the people of Ottawa.
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18 minutes ago, sharkman said:
You have no proof that there are criminals or thugs in the freedom convoy, or that any of them are harassing, intimidating or committing criminal assault in Ottawa. Because there is no proof and no such interactions by the convoy.
They all had to agree to a code of conduct that they signed before they were allowed to join. What you have is Ottawa citizens that have become agitators because they have, a)a poor moral code and, b) willingness to lie about crimes that never happened(which is a crime in itself). Or they committed the harassment, etc., themselves.I brought up Jesus driving people out of the temple with a whip(which was technically illegal) to demonstrate that you don’t know the Bible as you think you do. I don’t believe that this will give you pause, however.
What on earth does Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple have to do with this illegal occupation and criminal activity? Jesus drove them out because they were using a place of worship to run business and make money. Nothing to do with Roman laws.
There have been lots of criminals offenses committed in the blockade. The steady honking of loud truck horns is a criminal assault as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you don't care about other people, but it is causing a lot of harm to the people in that area and surrounding neighbourhoods.
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4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
So far only 50 offenses, 11 hate crimes have been logged by Ottawa police in one week.
The steady blasting horns is harming the health of the citizens and is a criminal offense or type of assault. People who are not affected by it might not see it as such, but that is what it is. Police are also investigating dozens of more offenses.
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8 hours ago, sharkman said:
Oh wow. Jesus ministered to the prostitutes, thieves, tax collectors(robbed the people) and beggars. He took a whip and drove law abiding sellers(they were there legally) out of the temple. He called the religious leaders(respected law abiders) a brood of vipers.
Keep reading the Bible…
There are many criminals/thugs in the Ottawa blockade who are harassing, intimidating and committing criminal assault with the loud, steady noise for days on end. These are not beggars or people who need ministering by a counselor. They are there to harass and assault people with their horns blasting. People living there have to put up with this from 6 or 7 AM to 11 or 12 PM at night. People feel unsafe. This is not sustainable. The government will have to take action before long.
I would praise the people who are trying to help residents living in this part of Ottawa by helping seniors and others by taking them out for a walk, helping them take their dogs for a walk, picking up groceries for them. People are frightened of these terrorists and thugs doing all this stuff. They all are very frustrated and sad that the police or doing so little or next to nothing to protect the citizens of Ottawa.
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7 hours ago, West said:
Bylaw infractions.. give them a parking ticket if warranted.
You are more worried about a parking infraction then your Prime Minister uttering divisive rhetoric and mandates that promote discrimination. Nice to know where your priorities are.
Christians get a bad name because often times they are feckless in the midst of some pretty disturbing times. Some Christians have rightfully spoke out though many remain silent. Separating the wheat from the tares.
There are serious criminal offences taking place in Ottawa bud. One of the big criminal offences is the steady blasting of truck horns day and night that is seriously affecting the health of people living in the downtown and surrounding areas. They are blasting these horns which have a noise level far above the health and safty levels of noise. Well up over 100 decibels. People have been kept awake for days and their mental health is being effected. This is a deliberate and planned assault on the citizens. There is nothing else you can call it. You should pay more attention to the health and safety of citizens than worry about a bunch of thugs and law-breakers.
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19 minutes ago, West said:
What laws exactly? The law of the land is the Charter which gives people a right to peacefully assemble and protest. Nowhere in the Charter is there a time limit associated with your protest contrary to what the government is gaslighting you to believe.
The only thing illegal is Trudeau thugs running over protesters
Christians should feed and water people regardless. No wonder your religion is dying. Christians have repeatedly been on the wrong side of history from slavery to nazi Germany using the ridiculous verse you quoted to support vile human rights abuses including the vaxx pass. Shame
They are breaking bylaws in blocking streets, illegal parking on streets, noise bylaws by blowing their horns 16 or 18 hours a day, threatening and insulting citizens for a start. They are likely breaking a number of bylaws. Also illegally occupying parks, and constructing illegal buildings.
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1 minute ago, West said:
Matthew 25
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,(A) 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me,(B) I was sick and you looked after me,(C) I was in prison and you came to visit me.’(D)
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’(E)
Those verse have no application to people who are illegally occupying the streets and breaking the laws.
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8 minutes ago, West said:
Good Christian answer
First of all these are not protesters. They are thugs who are illegally occupying the streets and committing illegal acts. They deserve the force of the law to end the criminal acts that they committing. If you think these are law-abiding citizens who are obeying the law, you are talking to the wrong person.
Trucker's Convoy
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God has ordained governments to govern over man. In their wisdom they brought in health restrictions. If you don't accept that, you are on the wrong side and opposing God and supporting anarchists. You need to repent and accept Jesus as Savior. Read the gospel of John.