blackbird
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I don't see this ending well for the occupiers. Trudeau has been neglecting his responsibility to act. He should examine what his father did in 1970 during the FLQ crisis and learn how his father acted. PM Pierre Trudeau declared the war measures act, sent in the army, and arrested hundreds of people. If the Ottawa police chief has said repeatedly this is an insurrection and they do not have the power or resources to end it, the federal government really has no choice. There is no other method to end a large insurrection other than using emergency measures and the army.
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3 minutes ago, West said:
Nothing illegal about the protest. Its a public street.
You're kidding of course. You know nothing about what is legal and illegal. Again how old are you?? I would guess maybe 10 or 12 years old.
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49 minutes ago, West said:
Looks like the Ottawa police are threatening to charge people for feeding and bringing supplies to people exercising their right to peaceful protest.
True third world stuff going on in Ottawa now. Leftists have turned Canada into a third world dictatorship.. sick folks, folks
It's not a "peaceful protest". It is an illegal occupation. So you're ok with the people of Ottawa being held hostage, threatened, harassed, intimidated, and assaulted with noise. The people are being used as hostages by a group of thugs trying to force the government to give them their way. It will never work.
The police announced they have issued 450 tickets in the last 24 hours and 100 investigations are underway.
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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:
Force feeding your citizens a steady stream of false fear for 2 years is worse.
Why do you think the citizens of Ottawa should be treated like this? What did they do to deserve this?
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31 minutes ago, sharkman said:
This just in: the Freedom Convoy organizers have in their hands the zoom video that exposes the Ottawa mayor and his staff as directly involved in getting Go Fund Me to shut down the Convoy fund. Pat King showed it on his face book page. Things are heating up.
Ottawa has now made it illegal to refuel the trucks that are in Ottawa streets.
Elon Musk has come out condemning Go Fund Me for shutting down the convoy page when they kept open the BLM page when they were raising money for the Seattle city block take over.
Elon Musk sounds like another radical Trumpster. Now we know where the money is coming from...the far right Trump crowd in the U.S. Glad the Go Fund Me had enough sense to shut it down. They learned from the Ottawa police that there were lots of illegal acts going on. There are 50 investigations of criminals acts underway. Go Fund Me should hold the money because they will need it to pay the millions of dollars in legal settlements from a class action lawsuit now being launched against the convoy organizers by the people of Ottawa.
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18 minutes ago, sharkman said:
You have no proof that there are criminals or thugs in the freedom convoy, or that any of them are harassing, intimidating or committing criminal assault in Ottawa. Because there is no proof and no such interactions by the convoy.
They all had to agree to a code of conduct that they signed before they were allowed to join. What you have is Ottawa citizens that have become agitators because they have, a)a poor moral code and, b) willingness to lie about crimes that never happened(which is a crime in itself). Or they committed the harassment, etc., themselves.I brought up Jesus driving people out of the temple with a whip(which was technically illegal) to demonstrate that you don’t know the Bible as you think you do. I don’t believe that this will give you pause, however.
What on earth does Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple have to do with this illegal occupation and criminal activity? Jesus drove them out because they were using a place of worship to run business and make money. Nothing to do with Roman laws.
There have been lots of criminals offenses committed in the blockade. The steady honking of loud truck horns is a criminal assault as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you don't care about other people, but it is causing a lot of harm to the people in that area and surrounding neighbourhoods.
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4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
So far only 50 offenses, 11 hate crimes have been logged by Ottawa police in one week.
The steady blasting horns is harming the health of the citizens and is a criminal offense or type of assault. People who are not affected by it might not see it as such, but that is what it is. Police are also investigating dozens of more offenses.
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8 hours ago, sharkman said:
Oh wow. Jesus ministered to the prostitutes, thieves, tax collectors(robbed the people) and beggars. He took a whip and drove law abiding sellers(they were there legally) out of the temple. He called the religious leaders(respected law abiders) a brood of vipers.
Keep reading the Bible…
There are many criminals/thugs in the Ottawa blockade who are harassing, intimidating and committing criminal assault with the loud, steady noise for days on end. These are not beggars or people who need ministering by a counselor. They are there to harass and assault people with their horns blasting. People living there have to put up with this from 6 or 7 AM to 11 or 12 PM at night. People feel unsafe. This is not sustainable. The government will have to take action before long.
I would praise the people who are trying to help residents living in this part of Ottawa by helping seniors and others by taking them out for a walk, helping them take their dogs for a walk, picking up groceries for them. People are frightened of these terrorists and thugs doing all this stuff. They all are very frustrated and sad that the police or doing so little or next to nothing to protect the citizens of Ottawa.
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7 hours ago, West said:
Bylaw infractions.. give them a parking ticket if warranted.
You are more worried about a parking infraction then your Prime Minister uttering divisive rhetoric and mandates that promote discrimination. Nice to know where your priorities are.
Christians get a bad name because often times they are feckless in the midst of some pretty disturbing times. Some Christians have rightfully spoke out though many remain silent. Separating the wheat from the tares.
There are serious criminal offences taking place in Ottawa bud. One of the big criminal offences is the steady blasting of truck horns day and night that is seriously affecting the health of people living in the downtown and surrounding areas. They are blasting these horns which have a noise level far above the health and safty levels of noise. Well up over 100 decibels. People have been kept awake for days and their mental health is being effected. This is a deliberate and planned assault on the citizens. There is nothing else you can call it. You should pay more attention to the health and safety of citizens than worry about a bunch of thugs and law-breakers.
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19 minutes ago, West said:
What laws exactly? The law of the land is the Charter which gives people a right to peacefully assemble and protest. Nowhere in the Charter is there a time limit associated with your protest contrary to what the government is gaslighting you to believe.
The only thing illegal is Trudeau thugs running over protesters
Christians should feed and water people regardless. No wonder your religion is dying. Christians have repeatedly been on the wrong side of history from slavery to nazi Germany using the ridiculous verse you quoted to support vile human rights abuses including the vaxx pass. Shame
They are breaking bylaws in blocking streets, illegal parking on streets, noise bylaws by blowing their horns 16 or 18 hours a day, threatening and insulting citizens for a start. They are likely breaking a number of bylaws. Also illegally occupying parks, and constructing illegal buildings.
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1 minute ago, West said:
Matthew 25
For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,(A) 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me,(B) I was sick and you looked after me,(C) I was in prison and you came to visit me.’(D)
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’(E)
Those verse have no application to people who are illegally occupying the streets and breaking the laws.
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8 minutes ago, West said:
Good Christian answer
First of all these are not protesters. They are thugs who are illegally occupying the streets and committing illegal acts. They deserve the force of the law to end the criminal acts that they committing. If you think these are law-abiding citizens who are obeying the law, you are talking to the wrong person.
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1 minute ago, West said:
It was his comment. You, a good Christian man, seem to be supporting the police chief and his call to investigate officers who give a cup of water to the protesters. As you claim to be Christian I just don't see how that aligns with the teachings of Jesus sir.
I don't think you know the teachings of Jesus and the Bible. "1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. {ordained: or, ordered} 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. " Romans 13:1-6 KJV
These verses warn against those who resist authority and warns evil doers to be afraid because the authorities bear the sword not in vain. That means God ordained authorities and they have the power to use whatever force is necessary.
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3 minutes ago, West said:
I'm asking you to comment on the police chiefs comments about investigating and jailing any officers giving out supplies to truckers.
Seriously, how old are you?
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1 minute ago, West said:
I'm asking you to comment on the police chiefs comments about investigating and jailing any officers giving out supplies to truckers.
I agree with the police chief. Of course no officer should be giving out supplies to the occupiers. What do you think the police are there for?
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1 minute ago, West said:
That's the words of the police chief. Yes or no. Should police be charged if they give a glass of water to protestors?
For a guy who quotes the Bible as much as you do I'm surprised you are on board with jailing people over giving q trucker water
I never said anything about jailing them. Where did you come up with that one?
They should kick their ass out of there. Do whatever is necessary to end this nonsense.
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2 hours ago, West said:
Do you believe cops who give a glass of water to protesters should be investigated and prosecuted as the chief of police has said? Is there anything your side can do that you would say is completely bonkers and even bordering on 1930s era Germany?
A glass of water? Are you a kid or an adult? I oppose illegal blockades and the steady noise they are making which is criminal. I can't see this lasting much longer. The authorities will have to take action. These are criminals blockading and occupying streets.
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3 hours ago, taxesanddeath said:
I am not anti-vaxxer or pro-vaxxer. C19 vaxx is one of the protections only, not the best. It is like saying analytics is the only real tool to gain an understanding of a hockey player. First of all, C19 vaxx cannot stop you from getting or spreading C19. So, your granddaughter getting C19 and spreading C19 to her family have little to do with anti-vaxx, maybe she might not be ill for a few days if she had vaxxed. Also, why we hv lockdown for the vaxxed?
look at this, some funny thing happen in Israel, a place where over 90% vaxx, 4th C19 boosters, vaxx passport for daily life.
In the end, people want choice not mandate because c19 vaxx is not the Silver bullet.
Why do you pick information on Israel which is totally different than many other countries? Something suspicious about that. Look at the statistics for the U.S. A graph shows unvaccinated people in the U.S. have a death rate of about 100 times greater than people who are fully vaccinated with their booster shot.
Fully vaccinated people are 93% less likely to die of COVID compared to unvaccinated people
Here is the COVID death rate for vaccinated people vs. unvaccinated people | Fortune
There are no lockdowns for the vaccinated. There are vaccine mandate and passports but no lockdowns. Do you know the difference?
Nov. 10, 2021 – While COVID-19 vaccine mandates have sparked lawsuits and protests, the data shows that they’re working and increasing vaccination rates.
.COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates Are Working, Public Health Experts Say (webmd.com)
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This thread has become nothing more than an echo chamber with a handful of "freedom" protesters echoing each other constantly.
Here is a news article describing how Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe has gone off the deep end in ignoring medical experts and supporting the anti-restrictions "freedom" convoy. He is completely out of touch with not only medical experts, but out of sync with other political leaders in Canada.
Political scientists say Sask premier's stance on vaccines is unprecedented (msn.com)
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21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:
The young man that we know who suffered 12 hrs of paralysis is in the Canadian navy. He had longer lasting symptoms as well, but I don't think that he took the Moderna/Pfizer vax. It was J&J or Astrazenica iirc (I haven't talked to him since he joined, his mom told us all of this).
This subject has pretty well been beaten to death the past couple years. It is tragic if someone has a serious effect from the vaccine, but from what I have heard regularly, it is extremely rare. The issue is that over a million people have died from Covid in the world, and about 33,000 in Canada have died. Many who survived Covid have lasting negative health effects. So the point I am making is the vaccine is the only real protection the world has to this deadly virus. It is terrible if someone died as a result, but it is like a war. Look at the millions who died fighting for their country in wars. Even police officers risk their lives every day to protect society but occasionally one of them gets killed. We don't abolish the police because of that.
We didn't ask for this virus. Our authorities are doing the best they can to protect us from it. Thousands, maybe tens of thousands of lives have been saved in Canada by vaccination. So tell me what is the rationale for opposing something that saves so many lives. Surely you can't say because a rare case has negative consequences that vaccination shouldn't happen. Your comment is that of an anti-vaxxer.
I have a grand daughter who has been an anti-vaxxer for years and she has put four kids in danger because she caught Covid and spread it to her family. She could have died and left the three little ones and the older kid with no mother. However, she is set in her thinking and I can't do anything about it except pray. She survived Covid although I heard she was quite ill for a few days. Thankfully her husband had to be vaccinated for his job.
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According to this article eliminating mandates and vaccine passports will reduce freedom for the majority. The problem is in the case of health measures, imposing certain restrictions does reduce the freedom for some people who refuse to get vaccinated and removing those restrictions likewise reduces freedoms for other people. For example, mandates are imposed to protect workers and people they deal with from the risk of catching Covid from unvaccinated people. If you remove the mandates, then you increase the chances of people catching Covid in the workplace or spreading Covid to the public by unvaccinated workers. A similar situation exists with the vaccine passports. If you remove the passports some people who are unvaccinated will then start going to restaurants, gyms, movie theatres, etc. and increase the risk to the vaccinated people.
Opinion: Ditching vaccine passport reduces freedom for the majority (msn.com)
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It was reported in the media that Trump had some harsh words about Trudeau lately and threw his support behind the convoys and occupation of Ottawa.
A lot of the money donated to Go Fund Me for this came from anonymous foreign sources, some of which were donations over $30,000. Could this money be coming from American Trumpsters?
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Ottawa residents should join and file a class action lawsuit to claim the ten million dollars from Go Fund Me and an immediate injunction to freeze the funds until the lawsuit is settled. The money could be used to compensate citizens for all the threats, abuse, assaults, loss of income of businesses, defacing the downtown property, a very loud noise effecting the health and well-being of the citizens, and disruption of the lives of Ottawa citizens and reimburse the taxpayers for policing costs. The steady noise is a major offense. This is nothing more than an American-inspired, Jan. 6, type of Trumpster occupation. The similarities are too great to ignore. Trump has already thrown his support behind the anarchists which further proves a connection. In addition to the massive amounts of anonymous money donated to GFM, most of which likely came from American Trumpsters.
According to this article, the chances of a peaceful end to this occupation may have already passed.
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57 minutes ago, Army Guy said:
This is what i asked... And i doubt very much any of this can be done without the parents consent, after 18 all bets are off.
It is a free country, but since when do we allow minors to make life altering decisions, which includes surgery to change their gender or sex... when did we as parents give up that right, and what else have parents been striped off... Did we just give them the keys to their own fate...
According to a court case I mentioned above, a 14 year old has the right to decide.
Trucker's Convoy
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The organizers want to overthrow the government and set up a dictatorship of their own. They demand all restrictions and health measure be ended. Their demands are completely outlandish and bordering on sedition. They leave the government no choice. There is no way the government can negotiate with a group of anarchists and come to any resolution. The health measures are not something that can be dictated by such a group. They left the government with no choice but to reject them. It is kind of like the FLQ crisis where the FLQ took a cabinet minister of Quebec hostage and killed him. This will not end well for the occupiers.