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32 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:
If evidence for a god is off the table, then how would we know which god is the right one? By having such a standard, haven’t you relegated all gods to be equally as likely?
The Bible is the answer as to which God. The creation demonstrates that God exists. The Bible is inspired by God and describes who this God is.
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The number of Covid deaths in the U.S. has reached at least 920,959. The number of deaths from vaccination out of 527,784,089 vaccinations administered (if the deaths were caused by the vaccination, which has not been proven) is over 6,000 according to VAERS. 83,400 plus of the Covid deaths were unvaccinated people. So that works out to 0.0018% or 18 deaths per million people vaccinated and it's not clear that the cause was the vaccine in all cases. Calculate the number of Covid deaths per million people. It works out to 2725 deaths per million people. It is far greater than the number of deaths from the vaccine, 18, if indeed the vaccine caused some deaths.
The conclusion is that the facts and statistics show the chances of death from Covid are far, far greater from Covid than from vaccination. So it is irresponsible to spread anti-vaxxer fear mongering. That kind of thing costs more people their lives.
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2 hours ago, Accountability Now said:
You really need to clarify your comments. Are you saying no deaths from vaccine induced myocarditis or myocarditis in general? Its well documented that deaths are linked to myocarditis.
Well....the recently released John Hopkins study would disagree with you on this.
I was incorrect. One website says the number of deaths in the U.S. after vaccination was 0.0018%. It says 527,784,089 people were vaccinated. This works out to 18 deaths per one million people. But it also points out the deaths occurred some time after vaccination; they said they have not confirmed that the deaths were a result of the vaccination or some other cause.
The number of Covid deaths in the U.S. has reached at least 920,959. The number of deaths from vaccination out of 527, 784,089 vaccinated (if the deaths were caused by the vaccination) is over 6,000 according to VAERS. 83,400 plus of the Covid deaths were unvaccinated people.
The conclusion is that the facts and statistics show the chances of death from Covid are far, far greater from Covid than from vaccination. So it is irresponsible to spread anti-vaxxer fear mongering. That kind of thing costs more people their lives.
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Just now, TreeBeard said:
If evolution fails to explain something, is that evidence for a god?
The Bible assumes from the start that God is. There is no need to provide "scientific" evidence according to some kind of formula. The evidence for God is all around you in the creation. Only the blind claim they want evidence.
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A colony for anti-vaxers, anti restrictions people is being started in Paraguay. Good place for the freedom convoy crowd on here to move to.
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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:
I want to be free of ineffective health restrictions
and save lives with actual effective measures that don't involve stripping people of their God given rights
There is no "God given right" to infect other people with Covid and kill them.
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2 minutes ago, blackbird said:
You're the one who seems to not care about protecting people from Covid. You want to be "free" from health restrictions.
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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:
you can have it both ways
the mandates and restrictions are killing more than they save
guess you want people to die on top of being stripped of their God given rights
You're the one who seems to not care about protecting people from Covid. You want to be "free" from health restrictions.
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Just now, Infidel Dog said:
Why do you? Adverse affects of the "vaccine" such as Myocarditis kill people. The suicide rate (especially among young people) sky rocketed during the mandates.
Why do you want to kill children?
People don't die from myocarditis. It is rare and it is treatable. I don't think people are committing suicide. But thousands of people could die if there are no restrictions and mandates.
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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:
I'm not
I am against stripping people of their God given rights
for mandates and restrictions that aren't worth that cost
You can't have it both ways. You either kill people with Covid or you save their lives with some restrictions when health authorities advise. Guess you want people to die.
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1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:
The political pressures for vaccine mandates has everything to do with Big Pharma.
Ridiculous. It's all about saving lives. Why do you want people to die?
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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:
because that doesn't fit his freedom hating confirmation bias
Why are you against saving lives or old people and others?
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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:
indeed
but that blindness is from the freedom haters
Bull. Why do you want old people and others to die of Covid when it can be prevented or reduced?
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1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said:
You don't really have to be an expert to see there's folly in comparing different stats to different countries and hoping to make a point. There are too many contradictory stats and anybody with a link to charts can find those contradictions.
For example you were impressed by some Big Pharma stenographer comparing Canadian per capita death stats to the UK or America.
Very well. Now do Japan.
Japan is 163 deaths per million. Canada is 930.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Japan has never had Vaccine mandates. You can get Ivermectin there.
It's a simple fact the death rates in the UK and the US were far higher than Canada. Has nothing to do with "big pharma".
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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:
projection is a helluva drug
Blindness to facts is almost worse than Covid.
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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Canada's mandates did nothing for long term care residents...
Yes that is true, but you are talking about before a high percentage of residents and staff were vaccinated. That was especially bad in 2020, two years ago when Covid first began.
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1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:
yeah you're only an "expert" on how to cherry pick examples to match your confirmation bias
and ignore everything else
No, I think you are the one ignoring plain facts from Public Health Ontario and DR. Zain Chagla that I gave you.
You don't accept any facts that counter your anti- Covid restrictions / anti vaccine narrative.
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7 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:
But if you want to compare other countries explain to me why Israel is topping the world in infections currently while have one of the top percentages of vaccinated.
Israel is a very small country and probably very densely populated. So people probably have much closer contact. Canada is a very large country with a relatively small spread out population.
Also don't forget the number of infections is not the most important factor because even vaccinated people catch Covid. The important factor is the number of deaths. Maybe Israel has a lot of spread but perhaps relatively mild infections and not so many deaths.
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3 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:
But if you want to compare other countries explain to me why Israel is topping the world in infections currently while have one of the top percentages of vaccinated.
I am not an expert on what is happening in every country. Are you? Since you mention it, you tell us.
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8 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:
Also, are you sure there were never mandates and lockdowns in the UK and America. I think you're wrong.
What covid restrictions are supposed to be exclusively Canadian? Are you sure New York and California never had them, for example. Prove it,
I saw on the news that certain places had certain restrictions at times. But there was an ongoing battle between different state and the federal government over mask mandates and some restrictions. DeSantis, the Republican governor of Florida lifted a lot of restrictions as I recall.
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19 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:
nope
many US states were just as restrictive as Canada and didn't have Canada's death rates
they had higher death rates than many right wing American states you are shitting on, in fact
your hypothesis is not supported by the data
The U.S. death rate from Covid was 280 per 100,000 population.
The Canada death rate from Covid was 94 per 100,000 population.
Canada took far stronger measures and the vaccination rates were higher in Canada. That is why the U.S. had about three times as many deaths per 100,000 population.
Mortality Analyses - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center (jhu.edu)
We saw quite often on the news what a mess the U.S. was with some state fighting and opposing mandates and restrictions.
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12 minutes ago, myata said:
Why wouldn't you mention Finland, Norway, and even Sweden that never had draconian restrictions, lockdowns and mandates? Because these are the facts and they directly contradict the story that restrictions are necessary. No. They aren't necessary and not justified by the evidence. They are arbitrary and unreasonable. Honest, open and voluntary approach with high quality, effective, efficient and agile healthcare system would and have achieved better results.
The restrictions aren't saving anybody; only covering bureaucratic ar..es incapable of competent and effective management. Yes facts show that. And the facts are sufficient for this conclusion.
I don't look up every country in the world before I make a comment. But I'm sure you do..haha.
The population of Sweden is about 10,500,000 in 2021. The number of Covid deaths is 16,465 as of Feb. 15, 2022.
The population of Canada is about 38 million. The death rate is Canada is about 35,000 from Covid.
It is obvious the death rate in Sweden was higher than in Canada which mean Canada's restrictions saved thousands more lives than Sweden which had few restrictions.
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3 minutes ago, myata said:
Why wouldn't you mention Finland, Norway, and even Sweden that never had draconian restrictions, lockdowns and mandates? Because these are the facts and they directly contradict the story that restrictions are necessary. No. They aren't necessary and not justified by the evidence. They are arbitrary and unreasonable. Honest, open and voluntary approach with high quality, effective, efficient and agile healthcare system would and have achieved better results.
The restrictions aren't saving anybody; only covering bureaucratic ar..es incapable of competent and effective management. Yes facts show that. And the facts are sufficient for this conclusion.
Nonsense. The virus is airborne and spreads by people breathing. So if you wear a mask and keep your distance or don't go where there are lot of people or where there may be people with Covid, of course you are less likely to catch it.
Vaccination makes you less likely catch it, less likely to be seriously ill, less likely to be hospitalized, and less likely to spread it to other people. So it saves thousands of lives in Canada.
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The right wing in the U.S. in many states are much more distrustful of government and many refused to get vaccinated. They also oppose health measures much more than people in Canada. Their vaccinations rates are significantly lower than Canada for second does and booster shots. They also oppose masks and social distancing. These factors is what caused their death rates to be much higher.
Trucker's Convoy
in Federal Politics in Canada
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You are correct. How many thousands of people die naturally every day in a country of 338 million people. Probably quite a few. Many die of natural causes, diseases, auto accidents, shootings, etc. etc. So the claim that 6,000 plus died after they were vaccinated does not really mean the vaccine caused it. We don't know the time frame either or the health condition of the people who died. But since some website bring this up, it must be dealt with on a rational basis.