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4 hours ago, Nationalist said:
Lol...'Its not today...itll be tomorrow some time.'
You need to quit bringing Gawd into this. Gawd doesn't appreciate it. Nobody does.
I' m sure God appreciates it. So I don't care what Devil followers and Satan worshipers like. People who support insurrection, crime, and anarchy are on the way to hell.
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23 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
How dare you use the name Aristides, who was a Greek reformist leader who added rights for common people.
Vaccine mandates and passports are a total violation of our constitution. If the government wants to dig in on this, look out, because people who understand what freedom and democracy mean won’t let this go. I’d suggest the odds over time are in favour of restoring rights and freedoms, but maybe not. We haven’t even gotten into the court challenge which is coming from Brian Peckford. Trudeau has blown it as a steward of our constitution.
Brian Peckford is a retired politician who is out of touch with reality. Not sure what caused him to become an anti- health restriction person. But he is at odds with all the premiers and federal government. His court challenge won't go anywhere. Experts have already said court challenges to the restrictions and mandates will likely fail because the government has the right to impose them in a pandemic.
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14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
What do you think is underway?
Trudeau isn’t recognizing Canadian sovereignty. Dr. Tam has said we’re waiting on international bodies to tell us our next steps. This is very much happening around the globe.
We are living in the last days. What we are witnessing is anarchy as a result of the pandemic. We also have the crisis in the Ukraine. I am not convinced that Dr. Tam is on the wrong path. I prefer to give her the benefit of the doubt and wait and see. I don't think Trudeau is going against sovereignty on the health restrictions. He is just doing what many countries are doing to protect their citizens.
Here is a bit on Revelation and the anti-Christ.
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3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
Read Revelations by that same apostle John. In that testament the government mandates a code that you must wear to buy, sell, and have freedoms. It’s the final blow to humanity, the Apocalypse.
Revelation does not refer to the present government we have. That is referring to a one-world government in the future.
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5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
Here’s your real world: The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is null and void. If you carry a digital vaccine passport, the state will allow you certain freedoms. If you don’t, your freedoms are severely reduced, including the right to work in a number of fields. This is Canada right now. Protests are underway to try to restore our constitutional rights that you don’t support.
By the way, if you support the protests you’re a radical freak and you will be removed from the legislatures where your protests can be heard. Canada is a digital totalitarian state. Some people are trying to protest and the government is moving against them without so much as a debate or discussion. I hope you’re proud of your government and that you feel safe.
God has ordained governments to govern over man. In their wisdom they brought in health restrictions. If you don't accept that, you are on the wrong side and opposing God and supporting anarchists. You need to repent and accept Jesus as Savior. Read the gospel of John.
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3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:
“However, there are cases where the sovereign or their representative would have a duty to act directly and independently under the doctrine of necessity to prevent genuinely unconstitutional acts.[31][32] As a result, the Crown today primarily functions as a guarantor of continuous and stable governance and a nonpartisan safeguard against abuse of power.[35] The sovereign acts as a custodian of the Crown's democratic powers and a representation of the "power of the people above government and political parties".[36”
It’s very clear to a growing number of people that the ruling party’s policies are counter to the will of the people. More than half the population opposes mandates and restrictions. What’s more, these policies contravene our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. The Governor General has a duty to tell the PM that he must discuss the pandemic measures with those who oppose them or else, according to her constitutional role, she must dissolve Parliament and force an election. The PM has a route out of this that he’s refusing to take. The public won’t forget if he continues to ignore them.
Enjoy living in your imaginery world.
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10 minutes ago, West said:
The government is abusing power to shut down peaceful protest. No different than Cuba or Venezuela. We are in trouble
500 tickets have been issued. About 100 criminal investigations are underway. The Mayor of Ottawa has declared a State of Emergency. How is that a peaceful protest?
Declaring a state of emergency will allow the Mayor and Police Chief to request help from the provincial government which can request help from the federal government. Many more police may come in and new strategies employed, possibly cutting off the supplies to the occupiers. Possibly they will cut off the movement of people into the occupied zone. There are non life-threatening measures they will probably take. The authorities are bending over backwards to keep everyone safe.
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2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:
From Wikipedia:
“executive authority remains vested in the Crown and is only entrusted by the sovereign to the government on behalf of the people. This underlines the Crown's role in safeguarding the rights, freedoms, and democratic system of government of Canadians, reinforcing the fact that "governments are the servants of the people and not the reverse".[29][30] Thus, within Canada's constitutional monarchy the sovereign's direct participation in any of these areas of governance is normally limited, with the sovereign typically exercising executive authority only with the advice and consent of the Cabinet of Canada, and the sovereign's legislative and judicial responsibilities largely carried out through the Parliament of Canada as well as judges and justices of the peace.[29] However, there are cases where the sovereign or their representative would have a duty to act directly and independently under the doctrine of necessity to prevent genuinely unconstitutional acts.[31][32] As a result, the Crown today primarily functions as a guarantor of continuous and stable governance and a nonpartisan safeguard against abuse of power.[35] The sovereign acts as a custodian of the Crown's democratic powers and a representation of the "power of the people above government and political parties".[36][37]”
Exactly! Just as I said. The GG acting on behalf of the Crown Or Queen acts only through the advice and consent of Cabinet or Parliament of Canada. The GG does not act on the advice or demands of the public or groups of citizens. Parliament is elected and represents the citizens and therefore any actions must be by Parliament.
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MAYOR DECLARES STATE OF EMERGENCY IN OTTAWA JUST NOW
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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:
Ha, you don’t know how Parliamentary democracy works. If the ruling party acts against the interests of the public, the GG can dissolve parliament, forcing an election.
You refuse to accept facts.
Give me one example of when in history of Canada Parliament has been dissolved by the GG without Parliament first defeating the government. Just one example.
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2 minutes ago, West said:
The Queen through the GG can dissolve parliament. Please take a civics class
Not unless it is through the established Constitutional process. A government must first fall in Parliament. The GG cannot dissolve Parliament because of a protest group. This is child's stuff, which you should have learned long ago.
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10 minutes ago, Goddess said:
So is "take this jab or lose your job."
The vast majority of workers have followed the mandates. Challenges by grievances through unions have been lost. Check the news article on MSN.
Workplace vaccine mandates being upheld as challenges largely tossed out, experts say (msn.com)
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1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:
The courts are one venue in which the public can challenge policy. Protest and influencing MLA’s in the House of Commons is another. Appealing to the GG and Senate is another.
The public cannot appeal to the GG. She is not elected and has no power to do anything unless a government is defeated in Parliament by our elected representatives in certain conditions. The Senate does not make the laws and cannot overrule existing laws. Protesters can protest to MLA or MPs. But they cannot over throw government as the manifesto of the convoy leaders says is their goal. There is nothing to negotiate with such people.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
The courts are one venue in which the public can challenge policy. Protest and influencing MLA’s in the House of Commons is another.
Peaceful protest is a legitimate avenue. Occupation, illegal actions, and insurrection are not legitimate. What is going on in Ottawa is not peaceful process.
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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:
You’re just wrong. The government isn’t respecting the constitution and has policies that run counter to the will of more than half the population. If they start clearing out protestors, that will be a declaration of war by the government against its public. Neither the police nor the army will support that. They are loyal to the Crown, not Trudeau.
If people don't think the mandates are constitutional, they can go to court and challenge them. That is how our system works, not by occupation by thugs and insurrection. That will never be accepted by Canadians or the government. I suspect there are some anarchists who would like to start a civil war because they are depraved evil sorts. But if they try, the full force of the authority and the sword will come down on them.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
Ha, if Trudeau attempts this, it will mark the end of his career as a politician. It could lead to the dissolution of Confederation, because the West won’t accept it. Either will rural Ontario and a good portion of urban Canada. People come to Canada for freedom, not oppression.
The majority do not support insurrection. This has to end or the government will be forced to act. The longer it goes on, the more people will see the government has no choice. Maybe that is why Trudeau is not acting right away. Time changes things.
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Just now, Zeitgeist said:
Are we seeing the government turn on its own citizens for exercising their constitutional rights? Shouldn’t the Governor General be talking to the PM about addressing the fair concerns of the massive protests against mandates and restrictions? If Trudeau refuses to meet with organizers and welcome an open dialogue on pandemic policies, it would be reasonable and important for the Governor General to dissolve Parliament and force an election.
The organizers want to overthrow the government and set up a dictatorship of their own. They demand all restrictions and health measure be ended. Their demands are completely outlandish and bordering on sedition. They leave the government no choice. There is no way the government can negotiate with a group of anarchists and come to any resolution. The health measures are not something that can be dictated by such a group. They left the government with no choice but to reject them. It is kind of like the FLQ crisis where the FLQ took a cabinet minister of Quebec hostage and killed him. This will not end well for the occupiers.
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I don't see this ending well for the occupiers. Trudeau has been neglecting his responsibility to act. He should examine what his father did in 1970 during the FLQ crisis and learn how his father acted. PM Pierre Trudeau declared the war measures act, sent in the army, and arrested hundreds of people. If the Ottawa police chief has said repeatedly this is an insurrection and they do not have the power or resources to end it, the federal government really has no choice. There is no other method to end a large insurrection other than using emergency measures and the army.
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3 minutes ago, West said:
Nothing illegal about the protest. Its a public street.
You're kidding of course. You know nothing about what is legal and illegal. Again how old are you?? I would guess maybe 10 or 12 years old.
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49 minutes ago, West said:
Looks like the Ottawa police are threatening to charge people for feeding and bringing supplies to people exercising their right to peaceful protest.
True third world stuff going on in Ottawa now. Leftists have turned Canada into a third world dictatorship.. sick folks, folks
It's not a "peaceful protest". It is an illegal occupation. So you're ok with the people of Ottawa being held hostage, threatened, harassed, intimidated, and assaulted with noise. The people are being used as hostages by a group of thugs trying to force the government to give them their way. It will never work.
The police announced they have issued 450 tickets in the last 24 hours and 100 investigations are underway.
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3 minutes ago, Goddess said:
Force feeding your citizens a steady stream of false fear for 2 years is worse.
Why do you think the citizens of Ottawa should be treated like this? What did they do to deserve this?
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31 minutes ago, sharkman said:
This just in: the Freedom Convoy organizers have in their hands the zoom video that exposes the Ottawa mayor and his staff as directly involved in getting Go Fund Me to shut down the Convoy fund. Pat King showed it on his face book page. Things are heating up.
Ottawa has now made it illegal to refuel the trucks that are in Ottawa streets.
Elon Musk has come out condemning Go Fund Me for shutting down the convoy page when they kept open the BLM page when they were raising money for the Seattle city block take over.
Elon Musk sounds like another radical Trumpster. Now we know where the money is coming from...the far right Trump crowd in the U.S. Glad the Go Fund Me had enough sense to shut it down. They learned from the Ottawa police that there were lots of illegal acts going on. There are 50 investigations of criminals acts underway. Go Fund Me should hold the money because they will need it to pay the millions of dollars in legal settlements from a class action lawsuit now being launched against the convoy organizers by the people of Ottawa.
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18 minutes ago, sharkman said:
You have no proof that there are criminals or thugs in the freedom convoy, or that any of them are harassing, intimidating or committing criminal assault in Ottawa. Because there is no proof and no such interactions by the convoy.
They all had to agree to a code of conduct that they signed before they were allowed to join. What you have is Ottawa citizens that have become agitators because they have, a)a poor moral code and, b) willingness to lie about crimes that never happened(which is a crime in itself). Or they committed the harassment, etc., themselves.I brought up Jesus driving people out of the temple with a whip(which was technically illegal) to demonstrate that you don’t know the Bible as you think you do. I don’t believe that this will give you pause, however.
What on earth does Jesus driving the money changers out of the temple have to do with this illegal occupation and criminal activity? Jesus drove them out because they were using a place of worship to run business and make money. Nothing to do with Roman laws.
There have been lots of criminals offenses committed in the blockade. The steady honking of loud truck horns is a criminal assault as far as I'm concerned. Maybe you don't care about other people, but it is causing a lot of harm to the people in that area and surrounding neighbourhoods.
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4 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:
So far only 50 offenses, 11 hate crimes have been logged by Ottawa police in one week.
The steady blasting horns is harming the health of the citizens and is a criminal offense or type of assault. People who are not affected by it might not see it as such, but that is what it is. Police are also investigating dozens of more offenses.
Trucker's Convoy
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The Ottawa Chief of Police is doing a exemplary job with the resources he has. He deserves a medal of honour. God bless him. He is just now speaking on CTV and answering questions. As he gets more resources, he will be able to do more interdiction. Meanwhile the court case is proceeding today against the honking which is causing great harm to the citizen's health. I pray they will rule against the honking.