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  1. "A. GOD SUPERINTENDS LIFE IN THE WOMB (PS. 139:13-16). David is affirming in poetic language that God superintended his formation in the womb (also, Job 10:8-12). The Bible repeatedly affirms that God’s providence governs everything from the weather (Ps. 148:8; Job 37:6-13), to animals’ food and behavior (Ps. 104:27-29; Job 38:39-41; Jonah 1:17; 2:10), to seemingly random events, such as the rolling of dice (Prov. 16:33). Surely if God governs these relatively minor things, then He also governs the formation of people in the womb. The Lord tells Moses, “Who has made man’s mouth? Or who makes him mute or deaf, or seeing or blind? Is it not I, the Lord?” (Exod. 4:11). So even birth defects, which science attributes to freak occurrences in nature, are under God’s direct superintendence for His sovereign purposes!" This is taken from a lengthy article, but there is a lot more to this subject at: What the Bible Says About Abortion | Bible.org The life in the womb is definitely human, and has all the attributes of a person, and has a right to life. You may want to take in the presentation by this excellent speaker: Miracles: Is Belief in the Supernatural Irrational? | John Lennox at Harvard Medical School - Bing video
  2. Says who? They allow abortion on demand that kills around 80,000 or 100,000 unborn babies a year in Canada and you say that we (liberals) have figured that out. You and some liberal "progressives" who know nothing about what is right and wrong in those areas and know nothing about the Bible or God and who could care less? I don't see any evidence that government liberals and left and their backers have figured out anything. If these things are clearly wrong in the Bible and have been believed that way for thousands of years, who is anyone to contradict these established higher principles and morality? That is why politics is generally a secular humanist enterprise as part of a corrupt, depraved, fallen world system.
  3. Sorry to hear that. I know it is hard to understand and I doubt if anyone on here could give a clear explanation about that because it is a very painful tragedy. But it was not God's fault and I don't think God was singling you or your loved ones out. God is a God of love and there is far more to it than I can say on here. He sent his Son to suffer and die a brutal death for everyone. All I can suggest is study the Bible and search for Christian articles on why suffering takes places in the world. Maybe talk to a Christian minister who is knowledgeable on the subject. Sorry I can't be of much help on that.
  4. "1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;" Genesis ch3: 1 - 7 KJV Bible (King James)/Genesis - Wikisource, the free online library The very basic reason why there are wars, starvation, murders, crime, sickness, disease, imperfections in everything is because of the fall of man as described in these verses in Genesis chapter three. As Adam and Eve were our first parents, they were the representative heads of the human race and when they rebelled against God, they fell from a perfect relationship with God and the whole world became fallen and corrupt. If you search the fall of man I am sure you can find many articles that go into this in detail.
  5. That is a good question and one of the most asked questions. I found this explanation quite useful: quote Q: Why does God allow suffering in the world? A: There are no easy answers to the question of the purpose of suffering and evil. The tendency is to blame God for these conditions, but He did not create them. They came as a result of man’s disobedience to God, beginning back in the Garden of Eden; see Genesis 3:16-19. Often suffering and adversity are brought about by disregard of God’s will or by the direct efforts of Satan or by natural disasters in a physical world which is also affected by man’s sin and the resulting judgment. God, however, has offered the most effective solution possible by giving His Son to die for all. Jesus Christ paid the ultimate price when He suffered and died on the cross, having taken upon Himself the sin of the world and all of its horrible consequences. When Jesus returns in power and glory, there will be a new world completely free from sin with its sorrow and suffering (Revelation, chapters 21 and 22). We can be sure that God in His divine purpose desires to bring about in us the greatest good and to allow suffering to be a means of discipline to cultivate love, patience, grace, and faith in our lives. God never asks us to understand; we need only trust Him in the same way that we expect our earthly children to trust our love. Peace comes when we realize we are able to see only a few threads in the great tapestry of life and of God’s plan. Then we can affirm with great joy and assurance that “in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). The way we react to suffering will determine whether life’s most tragic experiences bring bitterness and despair or become sources of blessing. The greatest joy will come when, in the midst of adversity, we look up into God’s face and say, “I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation” (Habakkuk 3:18). It is then that His promise will be most meaningful, “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze” (Isaiah 43:2). unquote Why does God allow suffering in the world? (billygraham.org) There are many websites which attempt to answer that from a biblical standpoint. A search engine can find them.
  6. People paid to watch "the God Delusion" debate between Richard Dawkins and John Lennox. You can watch it for free on youtube at the link I gave above. What killing are you referring to? I don't understand your question about tablets. Now you are asking a technical question about the Old Testament. Yes, they believe in the O.T. But it also has history of Israel in it and commands that were directed only to Israel. The school of theological interpretation I believe is called dispensational which means the Bible is divided up into different time periods or dispensations. That period in the Old Testament is called the dispensation of the law. Today we live in a different dispensation called the dispensation of grace which began 2,000 years ago when the church began. The instructions in the Old Testament that are not universal and were only meant for the Jews at that time, do not apply in the age we live today. Some commands such as the ten commandment are universal for all ages. With the exception of the sabbath law which only applied to the Jews in the dispensation of the law (O.T. times).
  7. That standard comes from Judeo-Christian civilization down through the ages. You were probably taught it was wrong because that was handed down through the ages. Could well have come from God and the ten commandments.
  8. Yes, God says killing is wrong (with certain exceptions such as capital punishment for murder by lawful authorities, defence in war, police enforcing the law). The rest of it requires Biblical knowledge, which can be Googled to find the answers. There may have been a prohibition to eat pork in the Old Testament for Israel several thousand years ago. But there is no prohibition for Christians. Some religions forbid pork but not Christians or correct interpretation of the Bible from a Christian perspective.
  9. I gave quite a long reply about 1 hour ago. Did you read it or miss it? Then I asked a question about what his standard is for right and wrong. But the long post an hour ago certainly does contain a lot of information. I am not sure what your allusion to Santa Claus is for. I said far more than simply stating God is real in the above post. You must have missed it. Check again. It is ironic. BC Sapper said I said too much and you said I said too little. Figure that one out.
  10. That is your choice. This happens to be a forum where we reply to comments. My reply to you contains detailed information why your claim is wrong. If you can't bear to read it or choose not to for some reason, that is your choice. Maybe someone else will get something out of it. The forum is more than a discussion between two people. Others read and reply to comments often. Even famous atheists like Richard Dawkins engage in public debate with theists. If you are not afraid you can watch their debate on youtube:
  11. Sadly, the justice system is not an important issue for the great majority of Canadians. ""Debt or deficit", "taxes", and "crime" had a similar response rate of between 1 and 1.5 per cent each week when Canadians are asked to name the most important issue government should tackle." Quebec wants feds to focus on environment, for Alberta it’s the economy: PCO polling (msn.com) Equally sad is the top issue for Quebec is the environment, something no man or government can control or change. I guess Quebecers have all the wealth they need from equalization and favouritism by Ottawa. So they can be interested in a phony issue like the environment as their hobby horse.
  12. If according to you there is no God, what is your standard or basis for determining right or wrong? By what standard or reference do you come to the conclusion that individual choice to commit suicide or doctor-assisted suicide is moral or right? By what or whose authority would MAID be right or moral? Would it be right for some medical professional or relative or friend to suggest to someone who is mentally-challenged they have the option of MAID?
  13. Wow! I have news for you. quote The Supernatural in the Natural The universe is objectively unnatural; it is astonishingly supernatural!! We have lived in this naturalistic world for so long that we forget that it is an unnatural world to begin with. It is unnatural to get something from nothing. It is unnatural to have a whole ocean of distinct, finely calibrated, subatomic particles materializing from nothing. It is unnatural to have random and unrelated physical laws governing the universe from nothing. It is even more intriguing for these laws of nature to be fine-tuned to sometimes one in a million million part to birth a life-permitting universe from nothing. And it is even more mind-boggling for these laws of nature to be exquisitely fine-tuned to each other to sustain this universe from nothing. unquote\ - from Darwin's Universe, From Nothing, By Nothing, For Nothing - Survival for Nothing by Yan T Wee available on Amazon quote Arguments for theism and against atheism Watch this page Anselm of Canterbury's version of the ontological argument appeared in his work Proslogium. The majority of philosophers of religion, or those who have extensively studied the issue of the existence of God, are theists (72 percent).[1] In relation to the debate between theism and atheism, theists often criticize atheism as being contrary to persuasive argument and have a number of arguments against atheism. Within Christendom, the discipline of Christian apologetics has been developed. Christian apologetics is the defense of the Christian faith through logic/evidence based arguments. The word apologetics comes from the Greek word apologia (from Greek ἀπολογία), which means "speaking in defense". Arguments for the existence of God include: Teleological argument: The universe exhibits overwhelming evidence of deliberate, intelligent, purposeful design, which implies an intelligent designer. See also: Arguments against evolution and Origin of life Evidential apologetics is an approach in Christian apologetics which emphasizes the use of evidence to demonstrate that God exists and that there is compelling evidence to support Christianity and the Bible. In addition, there are various arguments that atheists or other unbelievers weigh evidence improperly (see: Atheism and evidence). Moral argument. Objective morality exists. Atheism lacks objective moral standards. Not possessing a coherent basis for morality, atheists are fundamentally incapable of having a coherent system of morality (See also: Atheism and morality and Atheist population and immorality and Atheism and hedonism and Atheist hypocrisy) .[2] Atheism leads to moral and cultural decline (see: Atheism and culture). Cosmological argument: Every event in our universe necessarily has a cause. However, it is impossible that there should be an unending chain of causes going back. Therefore, there necessarily must be a cause distinct from the universe as we know it which is capable of causing all things and is itself uncaused. Atheism denies that that first cause is God. Christians point out that the question "Who created God" is an illogical question.[3] See also: Atheism and the origin of the universe Historical arguments for the existence of God (subset of evidential apologetics). For example, arguments stemming from historical accounts such as Christian historical apologetics, Christian legal apologetics and archaeological evidence such as Bible archaeology Bible prophecy Atheism and presuppositional apologetics Ontological argument Atheism and irrationality - Atheism cannot account for the laws of logic, consciousness or human reason. Atheism and the Problem of Evil (see also: Atheism and gratitude and Atheism and Hell) Atheists lack a coherent and compelling ultimate basis for knowledge. See: Atheism and epistemology Atheism is an unnecessarily limiting view of the world (see: Atheism is an unnecessarily limiting view of the world). Common arguments against atheism unquote Arguments for theism and against atheism - Conservapedia The following website explains why you should believe the Bible. The KJV is 100% accurate and based on the original Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. Why should I believe the Bible? | GotQuestions.org The Bible begins with the assumption that God is. It does not attempt to try to prove the existence of God because it is inspired by God himself. Since God is omnipotent (all powerful), he has no reason to try to convince man that he exists. He created mankind. Why would the Creator have to get down and beg for anyone to believe he is God and exists? It simply would not make sense. No, the Bible simply states he is and goes on from there.
  14. Does anyone have any right to question or oppose the Holocaust? Was that everyone's business or nobody else's business but the Nazis? Seems to me the principles taught in the Bible, as for example, the ten commandments are universal principles that apply to everyone. If those principles apply to everyone then your reasoning is seriously flawed.
  15. God's revelation applies to everyone whether you believe it or not. Personal beliefs are nothing more than personal beliefs. They do not necessarily agree with God's revelation to mankind. Therefore someone who does not believe in God or his written revelation could easily be dead wrong about many things and probably is wrong because he bases his beliefs on his own feelings or on what a non-believing world has said.
  16. "Murder" is a law term that refers to something that is against the law. Although suicide may not be illegal, it is still killing one's self which is playing God. Because something is not illegal, does make it moral or right in God's eyes. When human life ends is God's business, not man's. God created man in his own image and human beings belong to God. Not submitting to God's will, as revealed in his written revelation, the Bible, is rebellion against our Creator.
  17. Trudeau and Liberals have a history of ethics violations and scamming taxpayers. Oink oink
  18. Just using taxpayer's money to help the Liberals get elected. Give your head a shake. The kickback is Liberals getting elected. How much do you think cabinet ministers get paid? Using taxpayer money to help Liberals get elected is a serious abuse of taxpayer's money. That is not democracy either. According to this table of salaries of Senate and H of C, they get paid: ministers $90,400 plus $2,000 car allowance. This is in addition to an MPs salary of $185,800. There are additional payments of thousands of dollars for holding various positions. Indemnities, Salaries and Allowances (parl.ca)
  19. The approx $23,000 went to a PR firm run by Avaro and she worked as a key person on Trudeau's election campaign. She works for the Liberals almost every day on the CBC program Power and Politics.
  20. quote As a new prime minister in 2015, Justin Trudeau set out his expectations for cabinet ministers. “To be worthy of Canadians’ trust, we must always act with integrity,” Trudeau wrote in the introduction to “Open and Accountable Government,” a guide for ministers. It’s not enough, he stated, to be in technical compliance of the law. Rather, ministers must uphold “highest standards of honesty and impartiality,” an obligation that went beyond official duties, Trudeau explained. “Creating the culture of integrity and accountability that allows us to earn and keep the trust of Canadians will require constant attention,” he wrote. unquote Trade Minister Mary Ng should resign | The Star Do I sense hypocrisy?
  21. What is hilarious is some of the Trudeau supporters on here who don't understand why this is a scandal. Thousands of dollars of taxpayer money being paid to a public relations firm run by Amanda Alvaro, who was one of Trudeau's lead campaigners for his election. She is also a well-known liberal defender on the liberal CBC Power and Politics daily program. So taxpayer money was used to campaign for the Liberals and some don't understand the problem. Another article says this is only the tip of the iceberg Tasha Kheiriddin: Mary Ng scandal is but the tip of a terrible iceberg | Montreal Gazette The $22,000 and something of taxpayer money in this case is peanuts compared to the 50 million dollars given to the Aga Khan foundation around the time Trudeau took a trip to the Aga Khan's island, but he never had to resign over that. But it is the principle that taxpayer money is being funded to a PR firm and to people who campaign for Liberals.
  22. The Bible says God is the judge. It would be pointless to speculate on such a thing. It accomplishes nothing.
  23. You may be thinking of the Roman church, which is not actually a biblical church but it did grow to be the major religion in Europe through the ages since the 4th century. After the Roman Empire disappeared in the early centuries A.D., the Holy Roman Church took control of Europe through subservient kings and emperors. They did have crusades in the middle ages and some of it was to resist the takeover or control of the holy lands by the Muslims. There have been struggles in those areas ever since. There have been wars through the centuries for control of different areas or countries. Most of Europe remained in control of the Roman Church until the Reformation 500 years ago when Rome lost control of some countries in northern Europe. The Reformation took place in the 16th century and split a large part of the Roman church within part of Germany, the Netherlands, Scotland, and England becoming Protestant and rejecting Rome and the Pope. The Bible does not teach wars as the way to spread its message. Jesus never taught that wars were the way to spread the gospel. The wars that took place had a lot to do with control of countries, imperialism, self-defence, and power struggles, which has nothing to do with what the Bible teaches. There have been divisions and conflicts between different religions and beliefs down through history as well. Nations do have the right to defend themselves.
  24. Jesus never advocated the use of force to spread his message or gospel. People simply choose themselves what they believe in this world. Those who believe will be saved. (John 3:16, etc.) There would never be the use of force as we see in some Islamic countries. Bible believers support a government that maintains law and order and basic freedoms for the protection of society. But that's as far as it goes. Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world.
  25. "Q: Why does God allow suffering in the world? A: There are no easy answers to the question of the purpose of suffering and evil. The tendency is to blame God for these conditions, but He did not create them. They came as a result of man’s disobedience to God, beginning back in the Garden of Eden; see Genesis 3:16-19. Often suffering and adversity are brought about by disregard of God’s will or by the direct efforts of Satan or by natural disasters in a physical world which is also affected by man’s sin and the resulting judgment. God, however, has offered the most effective solution possible by giving His Son to die for all. Jesus Christ paid the ultimate price when He suffered and died on the cross, having taken upon Himself the sin of the world and all of its horrible consequences. When Jesus returns in power and glory, there will be a new world completely free from sin with its sorrow and suffering (Revelation, chapters 21 and 22). We can be sure that God in His divine purpose desires to bring about in us the greatest good and to allow suffering to be a means of discipline to cultivate love, patience, grace, and faith in our lives. God never asks us to understand; we need only trust Him in the same way that we expect our earthly children to trust our love. Peace comes when we realize we are able to see only a few threads in the great tapestry of life and of God’s plan. Then we can affirm with great joy and assurance that “in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose” (Romans 8:28). The way we react to suffering will determine whether life’s most tragic experiences bring bitterness and despair or become sources of blessing. The greatest joy will come when, in the midst of adversity, we look up into God’s face and say, “I will rejoice in the Lord, I will joy in the God of my salvation” (Habakkuk 3:18). It is then that His promise will be most meaningful, “When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze” (Isaiah 43:2)." Why does God allow suffering in the world? (billygraham.org)
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