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Another gigantic US myth. What Russia put in was far beyond the US. The US made WWII into a US business venture. After the war the US made trillions by stealing the wealth from European colonies. The US made WWII into a US propaganda film, lying its way to ever greater "American glory".

Freeland simply isn't aware of the deep evil of the US. But who are you to be pointing fingers, B_C, a person who revels, who positively delights in US carnage, US rapes, US murder of children, all US evil?

"US foreign policy adventures" - now that's a good one for the propaganda meisters. Hitler loved US propaganda so much that they fashioned theirs to match the US. The same for US genocides, which provided Hitler with plans for the Final Solution. Sadly, yes, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, the UK, ... have all been complicit in some of these monstrous US war crimes and terrorism. Ans it continues with this latest "terrorist" nonsense, which is just another silly US boogeyman fable.

This ought to really bring out the nostalgia. BBC Timewatch - Kill 'Em All: American War Crimes in Korea - YouTube

The question is, what is your source for your, what is obviously hearsay, evident by the way you are scrambling - don't break a nail, and which you seemingly aren't honest enough to admit.

And this means, what exactly?

There you have it, James, an American [And if I am not mistaken, a US military member] celebrating American trained and financed proxy US soldiers making America great again: "They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children." ============

That's what I asked about, what were your sources for your Green Peace remark. Was it just hearsay? Do you know what hearsay is?

As I said and you are clarifying, Shame is a universal human feature. That you so readily acknowledge that it isn't part of the American psyche comes as no surprise. Here is some of America's handiwork, this time Reagan used proxies. ******************************************************************************************** THE SECRET WARS OF THE CIA: part II CIA COVERT OPERATIONS IN CENTRAL AMERICA, CIA MANIPULATION OF THE PRESS, CIA EXPERIMENTATION ON THE U.S. PUBLIC by John Stockwell a lecture given in October, 1987 John Stockwell is the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public. He ran a CIA intelligence-gathering post in Vietnam, was the task-force commander of the CIA's secret war in Angola in 1975 and 1976, and was awarded the Medal of Merit before he resigned. Stockwell's book In Search of Enemies, published by W.W. Norton 1978, is an international best-seller. Systematically, the contras have been assassinating religious workers, teachers, health workers, elected officials, government administrators. You remember the assassination manual? that surfaced in 1984. It caused such a stir that President Reagan had to address it himself in the presidential debates with Walter Mondale. They use terror. This is a technique that they're using to traumatize the society so that it can't function. I don't mean to abuse you with verbal violence, but you have to understand what your government and its agents are doing. They go into villages, they haul out families. With the children forced to watch they castrate the father, they peel the skin off his face, they put a grenade in his mouth and pull the pin. With the children forced to watch they gang-rape the mother, and slash her breasts off. And sometimes for variety, they make the parents watch while they do these things to the children. This is nobody's propaganda. There have been over 100,000 American witnesses for peace who have gone down there and they have filmed and photographed and witnessed these atrocities immediately after they've happened, and documented 13,000 people killed this way, mostly women and children. These are the activities done by these contras. The contras are the people president Reagan calls `freedom fighters'. He says they're the moral equivalent of our founding fathers. And the whole world gasps at this confession of his family traditions. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Stockwell/StockwellCIA87_2.html

Over 70, James, approaching 80. A Brief History of U.S. Interventions: 1945 to the Present by William Blum Z magazine , June 1999 The engine of American foreign policy has been fueled not by a devotion to any kind of morality, but rather by the necessity to serve other imperatives, which can be summarized as follows: * making the world safe for American corporations; * enhancing the financial statements of defense contractors at home who have contributed generously to members of congress; * preventing the rise of any society that might serve as a successful example of an alternative to the capitalist model; * extending political and economic hegemony over as wide an area as possible, as befits a "great power." This in the name of fighting a supposed moral crusade against what cold warriors convinced themselves, and the American people, was the existence of an evil International Communist Conspiracy, which in fact never existed, evil or not. The United States carried out extremely serious interventions into more than 70 nations in this period. China, 1945-49: Intervened in a civil war, taking the side of Chiang Kai-shek against the Communists, even though the latter had been a much closer ally of the United States in the world war. The U.S. used defeated Japanese soldiers to fight for its side. The Communists forced Chiang to flee to Taiwan in 1949. Italy, 1947-48: Using every trick in the book, the U.S. interfered in the elections to prevent the Communist Party from coming to power legally and fairly. This perversion of democracy was done in the name of "saving democracy" in Italy. The Communists lost. For the next few decades, the CIA, along with American corporations, continued to intervene in Italian elections, pouring in hundreds of millions of dollars and much psychological warfare to block the specter that was haunting Europe. Greece, 1947-49: Intervened in a civil war, taking the side of the neo-fascists against the Greek left which had fought the Nazis courageously. The neo-fascists won and instituted a highly brutal regime, for which the CIA created a new internal security agency, KYP. Before long, KYP was carrying out all the endearing practices of secret police everywhere, including systematic torture. Philippines, 1945-53: U.S. military fought against leftist forces (Huks) even while the Huks were still fighting against the Japanese invaders. After the war, the U. S. continued its fight against the Huks, defeating them, and then installing a series of puppets as president, culminating in the dictatorship of Ferdinand Marcos. South Korea, 1945-53: After World War II, the United States suppressed the popular progressive forces in favor of the conservatives who had collaborated with the Japanese. This led to a long era of corrupt, reactionary, and brutal governments. Albania, 1949-53: The U.S. and Britain tried unsuccessfully to overthrow the communist government and install a new one that would have been pro-Western and composed largely of monarchists and collaborators with Italian fascists and Nazis. Germany, 1950s: The CIA orchestrated a wide-ranging campaign of sabotage, terrorism, dirty tricks, and psychological warfare against East Germany. This was one of the factors which led to the building of the Berlin Wall in 1961. Iran, 1953: Prime Minister Mossadegh was overthrown in a joint U.S./British operation. Mossadegh had been elected to his position by a large majority of parliament, but he had made the fateful mistake of spearheading the movement to nationalize a British-owned oil company, the sole oil company operating in Iran. The coup restored the Shah to absolute power and began a period of 25 years of repression and torture, with the oil industry being restored to foreign ownership, as follows: Britain and the U.S., each 40 percent, other nations 20 percent. Guatemala, 1953-1990s: A CIA-organized coup overthrew the democratically-elected and progressive government of Jacobo Arbenz, initiating 40 years of death-squads, torture, disappearances, mass executions, and unimaginable cruelty, totaling well over 100,000 victims -indisputably one of the most inhuman chapters of the 20th century. Arbenz had nationalized the U.S. firm, United Fruit Company, which had extremely close ties to the American power elite. As justification for the coup, Washington declared that Guatemala had been on the verge of a Soviet takeover, when in fact the Russians had so little interest in the country that it didn't even maintain diplomatic relations. The real problem in the eyes of Washington, in addition to United Fruit, was the danger of Guatemala's social democracy spreading to other countries in Latin America. Middle East, 1956-58: The Eisenhower Doctrine stated that the United States "is prepared to use armed forces to assist" any Middle East country "requesting assistance against armed aggression from any country controlled by international communism." The English translation of this was that no one would be allowed to dominate, or have excessive influence over, the middle east and its oil fields except the United States, and that anyone who tried would be, by definition, "Communist." In keeping with this policy, the United States twice attempted to overthrow the Syrian government, staged several shows-of-force in the Mediterranean to intimidate movements opposed to U.S.-supported governments in Jordan and Lebanon, landed 14,000 troops in Lebanon, and conspired to overthrow or assassinate Nasser of Egypt and his troublesome middle-east nationalism. Indonesia, 1957-58: Sukarno, like Nasser, was the kind of Third World leader the United States could not abide. He took neutralism in the cold war seriously, making trips to the Soviet Union and China (though to the White House as well). He nationalized many private holdings of the Dutch, the former colonial power. He refused to crack down on the Indonesian Communist Party, which was walking the legal, peaceful road and making impressive gains electorally. Such policies could easily give other Third World leaders "wrong ideas." The CIA began throwing money into the elections, plotted Sukarno's assassination, tried to blackmail him with a phony sex film, and joined forces with dissident military officers to wage a full-scale war against the government. Sukarno survived it all. British Guiana/Guyana, 1953-64: For 11 years, two of the oldest democracies in the world, Great Britain and the United States, went to great lengths to prevent a democratically elected leader from occupying his office. Cheddi Jagan was another Third World leader who tried to remain neutral and independent. He was elected three times. Although a leftist-more so than Sukarno or Arbenz-his policies in office were not revolutionary. But he was still a marked man, for he represented Washington's greatest fear: building a society that might be a successful example of an alternative to the capitalist model. Using a wide variety of tactics-from general strikes and disinformation to terrorism and British legalisms, the U. S. and Britain finally forced Jagan out in 1964. John F. Kennedy had given a direct order for his ouster, as, presumably, had Eisenhower. One of the better-off countries in the region under Jagan, Guyana, by the 1980s, was one of the poorest. Its principal export became people. Vietnam, 1950-73: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/US_Interventions_WBlumZ.html

Shame is a universal human feature. That you so readily acknowledge that it isn't part of the American psyche comes as no surprise. Caveat: there are many Americans who feel shame about what the US has done, continuously, for well over a century, slaughter tens of millions just to position US business to steal the poor's wealth. From the beheadings and other equally gruesome methods of death perfected by Americans that started with Native Americans and has continued to this day. Necklaces of Vietnamese ears worn by US troops, beheaded Vietnamese heads with eyes open and a burning cigarette put in each mouth for a "group" picture. These same things have been repeated myriad times in all the illegal US invasions.

So I guess that means your source is hearsay, Goddess. Good to know.

Here is a good compilation of the fire. Grenfell Tower: Massive Building Fire In London! - (Compilation)

Who is this addressed to and what could you mean?

Funny how the US set the bar so high for the German people, when they had little to no control over their government policies - Hitler was a dictator. The US has over 70 illegal invasions of sovereign nations just since WWII, the deaths of tens of millions, world leading terrorism, by far, numerous genocides, ... . Do you suggest, James, that you are unaware of all this?

No, you didn't think that at all. Or you wouldn't have brought up planes and "thermite" in an attempt to ridicule and divert attention from truths you [and everybody] don't want to face. It's about a high rise tower that burned ferociously for many long hours and it never collapsed. Time will tell how close a comparison can be drawn to the WTC towers.

US investment share in Canada 2014 - 49.4% of the total trade and roughly 54% of total trade for all of North and South America. China investment share in Canada 2014 - 3.4% of the total trade. The sky is falling the sky is falling.

In Post 38 of this thread - Omni: "They just needed to get their hands on the controls of a 767. The rest was easy, including the "thermite theory"." You were shown to be completely wrong, yet you continue to raise it. That is against forum rules, you entire comment above, all your comments are. "If you are not bringing anything new to the argument, then do not say anything at all.Some messages are not so much offensive as simply nuisance value. An example would be a person who persistently creates conflict without contributing anything useful." You do not speak up when others do the same as you or worse. It tells clearly why you engage in this type of behavior.

You yourself raised the issue of planes, Omni. You are dishonestly trying to divert from what you raised. It's my thread and both you and I know that it is right on topic.

Do you have a source for this, Goddess?

DOP advanced the silly notion of the plane and he was shown to be wrong. You continue to advance this with zero proof. You continue with that useless source you threw up, when you are completely unable to discuss any of the old, old nonsense found therein. Why would you put thermite in quotes when you know from the sources provided that we are talking about nanothermite?

Why won't you address your dishonesty, Dop?

You get caught describing a falsehood, you are corrected on it and you slink off. Do you consider that to be dishonest, Dop.

It's not the words, Lawrence Livermore Labs and Los Alamos, that frighten you so, it's the information that you refuse to read and discuss. The denial of reality is spectacular to behold.

Yes, you are. You are asserting that what was said, "The Twin Towers collapsed because the aircraft fuel ignited the contents of the building and it was the burning of the contents of the building which caused the steel columns to lose stiffness." has any connection to reality. eyeball: Did you read what your source had to say about other burning Towers? Nothing was said about "other burning Towers". It was said about the twin towers, which as I have noted has no connection to reality. You are denying reality, 1) by suggesting that it is my theory. That is patently dishonest. 2) I'm not afraid to put forward sources that disagree with reality. There are many who hold to the idea expressed by your "catch". This isn't new information and it doesn't diminish the things I put forward because they are from scientists, architects, engineers, physicists, ... . Why don't all the things that refute the theory you believe in make you go hmmmm? Here is just one of the myriad impossibilities found within the US government conspiracy theory. 1) Only the US has nanothermite, it was found in WTC dust by scientists who can determine what it is, thermite at the nano scale, but they have no idea how it is made. That is because it is US government/US military proprietary information. That's one billionth of a meter. To put this in better perspective, that is 1/1,000,000 of a millimeter/ one one-millionth of a millimeter.