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And yet you actively support those who have been denying that same freedom to hundreds of millions around the world. And you'll probably suggest that you aren't being hypocritical.

Is this a bald faced lie or is this simply your ignorance? Truman started the war crimes/terrorism against Vietnam and those continued until the 1990s under all manner of US war criminal/terrorist presidents.

You have made many totally false assumptions, [also known as lies] the latest one against Dr Steven Jones. And now you do the typical cowardly thing you all do. Provide your source that refutes the Harrit et al scientific paper. Do you deny that US government scientists developed nanothermite in the 1990s? Do you deny that nanothermite was found in WTC dust?

You are a science denier, Omni, an anti-truther. eyeball raised the science issues and even you "discussed" them. Now, in your typical cowardly fashion you run. You run from everything. Just start with the two questions I asked of you.

You can't help yourself, Rue. You support Dop and the gang.

No, you didn't. You threw up an old science denying, anti-truther website that was so badly out of date and then you fled from it, never discussing a thing. Steven Jones isn't actually the lead scientist on the paper but one can't expect science denying, anti-truthers to know that. The Harrit et al paper describing the nanothermite found in WTC dust was published in a peer reviewed journal and it has never been challenged by any scientist in any peer reviewed journal. That makes it the gold standard. That is how science works. Now address all the science issues raised in my first reply to eyeball. You can start with these two. Do you deny that US government scientists developed nanothermite in the 1990s? Do you deny that nanothermite was found in WTC dust?

Why didn't the Cardington test fires, with added loads of 2x4 materials cause any collapse? How do you explain the molten steel pouring out of WTC2 minutes before its collapse? How do you explain NIST lying about that same molten steel? Remember, unlimited amounts of jet fuel and office furnishings burning for months on end cannot melt steel.

Notice, Omni, that there is never any science from you. Address the science in the post just above this one. How many of those impossibilities do you deny? "common sense", from you and all the other science deniers, what a laugh!

You might have a point if other steel frame buildings that have burned much longer and much hotter also collapsed. None ever have, before or since 911. You might have a point if the twin towers hadn't collapsed at accelerating speed. That is impossible for an alleged gravity collapse. You might have a point if WTC7 hadn't collapsed at free fall speed. That is impossible for an alleged gravity collapse. You might have a point if a two year study by a top forensic engineering scientist says the NIST report for the collapse of WTC7 has a zero chance of being correct. No building from a fire will ever collapse straight down, symmetrically, at free fall speed. That is impossible. You might have a point if the twin towers had had jolting, halting collapses. Gravity collapses cannot hurl multi-ton steel sections 600 feet away. Gravity collapses cannot pulverize 220 acres of concrete, the steel forming pans into micron sized particles. All the energy needed to do that makes accelerating collapses completely impossible. You might have a point if NIST hadn't lied about the free fall and the explosions, the molten/vaporized steel, vaporized lead, all of which are impossible in a jet fuel/office furnishings fire. You might have a point if nanothermite, solely a US government/military OWNED explosive hadn't been found in WTC dust. Unreacted particles, which means that there was a lot of reacted nanothermite that went off, which is the ONLY thing that could have created the molten and vaporized metals. Do you deny that the US government developed nanothermite in the 1990s? Do you deny that unreacted nanothermite particles were found in WTC dust? Do you deny that the by-products of thermitic reactions were found in WTC dust, iron microspheres in volumes 1500 times greater than that of normal office dust? Do you deny the molten and vaporized steel described by FEMA, pictures of which anyone can see? Do you deny the molten and fused steel and concrete, one named the Meteorite and housed in a 911 museum? Do you deny the molten handguns found and stored in a 911 museum? How does anyone reconcile all these impossibilities and make claims to be a thinking individual?

Is your entire world made up of US propaganda reels and movies, Betsy?

Fatuous comment. You're too much of a coward to ever find out about these things.

Nope, they would ask the experts, the ones who are ready and willing to murder anyone. Kinda like the Mafia. Why are you such an avid supporter of such evil?

It's your propaganda, the stuff you shovel when you are not praising war crimes, murdering children, raping women, and boys and men and kids.

Yes indeed, the USA will do business with anyone.

They'll check in with the Americans about how to run a successful huge lie. They might try to blame the cladding on Nauru or some other tiny country they want to rape and pillage. They can also find out how to makes sure any future fire makes the tower come down.

Just as Hitler was for his allied interests. And note, that the US was doing business with the Nazis thru a good part of WWII. Nobody is too low for the US to align itself with. Why is it that the "good guy" so loves to murder children, rape women they are trying to save from oppression, lie like a sidewalk?

More of the propaganda. People would go even if they knew the truth, that the US will murder anyone and everyone, even their own, just to allow them to keep their thieving going on.

You are simply a strong advocate for war crimes, war criminals and terrorists. "So it is not surprising that many Americans are today confused about who their 'allies' were during the war, because in reality they had none. Clients yes, allies no. The difference is as critical as the difference between 'attacked' and 'became involved', for it is the clear division of truth from propaganda." John Pilger

And in the great rule of law USA, how many of the tens of thousands of US war criminals were held to account? Not a one! All that was learned was that the US has to have a more effective propaganda system to better control its citizens and other countries.

That's right, and the citizens of Russia had zero say. While the "government of the people, by the people, for the people" sat as silent as if they had been living under a dictator who would have killed them had they spoken out. While their governments murdered, raped and pillaged the planet.

From chief cheer leader for heinous war crimes and war criminals to a poorly crafted budding historian, using the "oh look, a squirrel" routine. Post WWII is the defining era which we should all be focusing on because that is the era that defines current international law. If we really want to go back we could discuss the birth of the current predator nation USA as it really came into its own. ARGENTINA1890TroopsBuenos Aires interests protected. CHILE1891TroopsMarines clash with nationalist rebels. HAITI1891TroopsBlack revolt on Navassa defeated. HAWAII1893 (-?)Naval, troopsIndependent kingdom overthrown, annexed. NICARAGUA1894TroopsMonth-long occupation of Bluefields. CHINA1894-95Naval, troopsMarines land in Sino-Japanese War KOREA1894-96TroopsMarines kept in Seoul during war. PANAMA1895 ... https://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html

"everyone" means the incredible US propaganda that westerners are barraged with. Think about it, everything you hear about the entire world comes thru a US media filter. Stalin, not Russia, held on, and as I said for a very good reason. They knew what the USA was and they know what the USA is today. The US has invaded Russia! And in all those "liberated" countries, the US had right wing groups bombing and attacking civilians and then blaming the communists to ensure that right wing governments held onto power. Is that what good guys do? The US overthrew any governments that they thought too liberal, governments that might actually want to help their own citizens instead of US corporations.

Never a source for the fantasies of the right/conservatives. But note, even the other righties won't support this fictional history.

Everyone says that Americans are good guys despite it being the biggest lie ever. One very big reason Russia was like it was after WWII was that it had suffered a great deal in WWII, while the US made out like the bandits they are. Russia was also aware of deep US duplicity. The USA had invaded Russia in 1918. Russia has never invaded the US.

South Vietnam was a figure of the imagination, an illegal US move to try to bring the people of Vietnam under US domination. Even Eisenhower knew full well that the people of Vietnam didn't want the USA or its vicious dictators. 1954: Vietnam Temporarily Divided by Geneva Accords The Geneva Accords temporarily divide Vietnam in half at the 17th parallel, with Ho Chi Minh’s forces in the north and Bao Dai’s regime in the south. The accords also call for elections to be held in all of Vietnam within two years to reunify the country. [GENEVA ACCORDS: AGREEMENT ON THE CESSATION OF HOSTILITIES IN VIETNAM, 7/29/1954] The US opposes the unifying elections, fearing a likely victory by Ho Chi Minh, and refuses to sign the Geneva accords. “If the scheduled national elections are held in July 1956, and if the Viet Minh does not prejudice its political prospects, the Viet Minh will almost certainly win,L the CIA notes. [KOLKO, 1985, PP. 84] And US President Dwight Eisenhower admits, “I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, a possible 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader.” [EISENHOWER, 1994, PP. 372] ======================= Here's a dandy example of how the good guys, the USA, were crooked as hell, murderers who would do anything to steal other's wealth. 1955: Vietnamese Prime Minister Wins Referendum, More Votes Cast than There Are Voters The US helps arrange a national referendum between Vietnamese Prime Minister Ngo Dinh Diem and Emperor Bao Dai. Diem “wins” 98.2 percent of the vote. Interestingly, a total of 605,000 votes are cast despite there being only 405,000 registered voters. [HERRING, 1986, PP. 55]