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An outright lie, OftenWrong. Either you can't read or you aren't adult enough to face up to reality for there is lots of evidence in the previous pages, some from Reg, but none from you or any of the other science deniers I specifically mentioned. Maybe the big print will help you. The seismic signals don't match up to reality, which means they don't match the US government wacky conspiracy theory, OftenWrong. "As for the Twin Towers, it appears they were first weakened by explosions at their base at the moment the airplanes crashed into them. After that we must distinguish between the parts of the building above the impact zone of the planes and those located below. If the seismic waves could not have been generated by the explosions visible in the floors (which allowed for the gradual collapse upwards above the impact zone and downwards below this zone), then only a powerful explosion at the base of WTC2 and a subterranean one under WTC1 could have produced the observed seismic waves. These basal explosions would facilitate the total, rapid disintegrations of the buildings. In the case of WTC1, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) implicitly confirmed this scenario. http://www.journalof911studies.com/were-explosives-the-source-of-the-seismic-signals-emitted-from-new-york-on-september-11-2001/

Omni has never provided any evidence, nor has Michael, Rue, Wilber, OftenWrong, ... . Reg is the only person who has ever attempted to offer actual evidence. Study of the seismic wave data reveals that the low 2.0+ magnitude Richter scale measurements coincide perfectly in timing with huge subterranean explosions witnessed and described by Willie Rodriguez in WTC1 and fireman Richard Banaciski in WTC2. The scientists "demonstrate that only strong explosives could be the cause of such seismic waves" , ie. the signals received by the LDEO lab 34 km from ground zero were only capable of being from powerful sub earth explosions.

But all this "evidence" you find can/will never be posted here in the very thread meant for evidence supporting the US government 911 Conspiracy Theory.

If you will make clear what you mean, Reg, I can address what you believe to be contradictions. Isn't that how science is supposed to work?

Please try to be clear about what you are saying, eyeball.

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What in heaven's name are you ranting about, Michael? What security guards? Who died? Do you even know what thread you are on?

Again, you are woefully ignorant of the issues and the science of 911, Rue.

You do realize that you are talking about yourself, Michael. The US government conspiracy theory is the one with no evidence supporting it. NIST are the crackpot scientists and your remarks are testament to how precious little you know. No evidence has ever come from you, or Rue, or any one of the US government conspiracy theory science deniers. It's always just the same childish 'whack a mole' nonsense.

Rue wrote: I find Hotty's belief that nano thermites not paint chips were found in the debris is not the workings of a mole but simply a person who wants to badly to believe in just one version of reality and I am not wacking him. I don't wack things including myself. My hands are only used for legal activities. Here is what Hotty wants us to believe; ============= Well, Michael?

Why do science deniers/anti-truthers keep advancing, in totally deceptive and patently dishonest fashions, things they know are lies?

Even regular thermite cannot be produced from iron/iron oxide and aluminium pieces falling together in a collapse. The notion that nanothermite could be created in this fashion is ludicrous in the extreme. ONLY the US government/military has nanothermite, 'nano' meaning one-billionth of a meter, one-millionth of a millimeter. What was a US government, high grade military explosive doing at WTC, Reg?

Paint chips do not explode, Reg, and create the same by products of thermite/nanothermite. One of the scientists who has studied these unreacted particles of nanothermite explains what they are. The part that is pertinent to your offering above, can be seen starting at 3:57.

Do you deny that nanothermite was discovered and produced by US government military labs in the 1990s, Wilber? Do you deny that nanothermite was discovered in WTC dust, along with the by products of those reactions? Do you deny the molten/vaporized steel found at WTC?

Speaking of changing the subject, Rue, that's exactly what you are trying to do. Instead, why don't you bring forward your serious errors from another thread when you discussed 911 and some science and you were not only thread drifting, you were totally out to lunch.

Why would you be discussing off topic issues, Rue, you the guy who throws up this nonsense as soon as you find yourself up a stump, which is often? The author of that article, Michael Shermer, is a consummate liar, Rue. He knows less than you about the science of 911, if that is possible. "I have absolutely no idea who that man [Shermer] is." [8:12 on]

Delusion runs rampant in the minds of the religious.

Some type of "fuel" "played a VERY significant role in the building's demise". That was the nanothermite discovered by Dr Steven Jones and confirmed by scientists from around the world. That is the only thing that can account for the molten/vaporized steel, the molten molybdenum [4700F], the vaporized lead [3,180F], the iron microspheres [2,700F], which are a by product of these thermitic reactions/explosions. Remember, 1,800 F is the maximum for jet fuel/office furnishings fires and that temperature is only attainable under ideal burn conditions. Ask yourself, Reg, how did a US government/military high grade explosive, nanothermite, developed by US military labs in the 1990s, not commercially available, end up spread throughout the dust of WTC, along with the end products produced by these 3,600 degree centigrade/6,500F thermitic reactions. Then ask yourself, "Am I not just denying reality, am I not being delusional, ignoring all this incredibly damning totally fatal to the US conspiracy theory evidence"?

That wouldn't explain how WTC7 fell at free fall speed for the first 2.25 seconds of its collapse, 105 feet, 8 storeys, symmetrically, into its own footprint, with molten and vaporized steel. No amount of jet fuel/diesel fuel can ever melt or vaporize steel. It burns, at its hottest, 1000 F below the melting point of steel. All these things make it impossible for a fire induced collapse. And besides, NIST stated that the stored diesel fuel in WTC7 played no part in the WTC7 fires.

If it was only stupid, one could. This is the craziest phenomenon ever to hit the free, open, freedom loving nations of the world. People, many of them, saying completely delusional things that cognitively, they know, just do not add up. Many more frightened into silence. Canada, the US, the UK, ... steeped in totalitarianism, and seemingly, not much bothered by it.

Of course they know what happened on 9-11! That's why everybody is too scared out of their wits to admit it/to talk about it.

Why no comments from all the folks here at MLW, who so believe in science, on the "scientific source" from Omni? Why not do some qualitative comparisons between Omni's "source" and http://www.consensus911.org/point-tt-6/ ?

You do realize, Reg, everyone, that molten steel, vaporized lead, vaporized steel all point to the nanothermite, which is the only thing that had the capability of creating temperatures hot enough to create these situations. This, above, from the US government military lab scientist who discovered nanothermite. 3,500 degrees Celsius is 6,300+F! This alone sinks the USGOCT.