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    Rue: The fact he would even regurigitate[sic] the shrinking map argument which has been debunked on this forum so many times speaks for itself.

    The fact that you, like so many others are too frightened to address what I post speaks volumes, Rue. 

     

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    Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity, Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law, Security Council Reaffirms

    14 Delegations in Favour of Resolution 2334 (2016) as United States Abstains

    The Security Council reaffirmed this afternoon that Israel’s establishment of settlements in Palestinian territory occupied since 1967, including East Jerusalem, had no legal validity, constituting a flagrant violation under international law and a major obstacle to the vision of two States living side-by-side in peace and security, within internationally recognized borders.

    Adopting resolution 2334 (2016) by 14 votes, with the United States abstaining, the Council reiterated its demand that Israel immediately and completely cease all settlement activities in the occupied Palestinian territory, including East Jerusalem.  It underlined that it would not recognize any changes to the 4 June 1967 lines, including with regard to Jerusalem, other than those agreed by the two sides through negotiations.

    https://www.un.org/press/en/2016/sc12657.doc.htm

     

     

  2. 12 minutes ago, Rue said:

    " Repetition makes things seem more plausible," says Lynn Hasher, a psychologist at the University of Toronto whose research team first noticed the effect in the 1970s. "And the effect is likely more powerful when people are tired or distracted by other information."

    That is exactly how US and other western propaganda has been so effective, Rue. You have hit the nail on the head, for once. 

    Look at how well it has worked for the USGOCT. There is zero evidence for the US government's fable about 19 Arab hijackers but still some people delude themselves into thinking it has a measure of credence.

  3. 6 minutes ago, Rue said:

    Can you imagine China doing what Canada did and just letting illegal migrants from North Korea, Vietnam, flood into their country?

    Fat chance.

    The people you speak of, the Vietnamese and the people of the north of Korea, have always simply wanted to have a chance to operate in the world community. As you have to note, the Vietnamese are doing very well, as are the Chinese.

    The people of the north of Korea not so well because of the ongoing 70 plus years of US terrorism/economic strangulation of those people, the very same as the US has done to Cuba and other countries. 

    Both "communist" countries, which you attempt to disparage with your stunningly hypocritical "Unless you are part of the elite 1% of corrupt Chinese at the top". Is this different than the "unless you are part of the elite 1% of corrupt Americans at the top"? 

    Had the US continued with its economic terrorism against Vietnam after the Vietnamese sent the invading hordes fleeing, it would be a country like that of the north of Korea or Cuba, strangled by the terrorist USA.

     

  4. 3 minutes ago, Rue said:

    Let's start with the words, "No Palestinian leader is required to recognize Israel as a Jewish state."  If I then responded no Israeli leader is then required to recognize a Palestinian state, unless there is quid pro quo, how is it logical for anyone to suggest A Palestinian state should be recognized but not a Jewish state. The very nation of a Palestinian state is predicated on the national identity of a Palestinian. The very nature of an Israeli state is predicated on the national identity of Jews.

    Why is one demanded and the other not recognized. Would any rational person be expected to give someone rights the other party won't reciprocate in a peace agreement? Of course not.

    You jump on others for going off thread, Rue. What have you just done here with your long winded post?

    Is there any other religion in the world that that been able to have a country established for it? Can you point me to, on a map, the countries of Catholicity, Protestantania or Rastafaristan?

    How can you suggest that there has been any sort of quid pro quo. The following maps illustrate clearly you are being very loose with the truth here.

    PalestineIsraelMap580.jpg

  5. 1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

    Some Muslims are of the conviction that they are, indeed, killing people as a requirement of their religion.

    Actually, this is a totally fatuous idea. If it had any validity there would have been a steady stream of non Muslims being slaughtered over the last century where in fact the reverse was true. Muslims, all Middle Easterners were being slaughtered, oppressed, raped, ... for their crazy belief that they should possess and enjoy the proceeds from their oil, their wealth. 

    The same for Blacks in Africa. Cecil Rhodes, the kind, generous benefactor set up the Rhodes scholarships with wealth he stole from Africans. You do know, of course, that that is something the British people excelled at, stealing from the poor of the world.

    So don't you think it rather spectacularly hypocritical that we westerners should point the finger at those who are simply no longer willing to allow the predacious behavior of western countries, especially when they couch it in such unbelievably hypocritical ways - we are saving the oppressed/we are terribly worried about little girls not being allowed an education/ and other such nonsensical drivel.

    Why don't you, being an honest man, ever discuss this British/western legacy?

  6. 1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

    Some Muslims are of the conviction that they are, indeed, killing people as a requirement of their religion.  It doesn't matter if you're a biker in Manhattan, a shopper in Mogadishu or a blogger in Bangladesh.  That's why you died.

    Many westerners are of the conviction that they are, and should kill people to save them from oppression. Does that make any sense to you, bcsapper, plan and carry out a genocide aimed at murdering 500,000 Iraqi children under five, maybe a further million adults to save them from some nebulous oppression?

  7. 1 minute ago, blackbird said:

    I assume you must be operating from somewhere outside north America since since you constantly go on with your fake anti west diatribe.  How much do you get paid?  You wouldn't be getting paid much because your audience is miniscule and nobody believes it, except maybe Altai.

    How come you folks have so much trouble addressing science, the truth, hard facts? Why are you experiencing so much difficulty believing that depraved US/UK governments that kill millions are evil? That is the very definition of evil. 

     

  8. 1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

    Some of them think they do, and they are quite often successful.  I'm sure Goddess was talking about those.  You're a terrible person for excusing them, and making the ridiculous comment that taking them to task for it stereotypes them all. 

    So before you make any attempts to discover what Goddess meant, you leap to the unwarranted conclusion that you know. Based on what? The memes being generated by right wing racist websites, still caught in the thrall  perpetrated by lies of the deeply evil UK/USA lying governments, the same deeply evil governments that illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, the same deeply evil British governments that have illegally and amorally invaded 9 out of 10 of the countries of the world. 

    These are the same deeply evil governments, US/UK, that planned and carried out the planned genocide of Iraqis, most specifically Iraqi children under five years of age - we know we are going to murder possibly millions of Iraqis but we can't let all our evil plans go to waste. This was long before the war crimes associated with the post 2000 illegal invasions. 

    The German people showed contrition for their holocausts, while western "good people"/christians seem to revel, to delight in the viciousness of their holocausts, they continue to denigrate and malign people who are sick and tired of western depravity, western greed, western evil that makes Hitler look like the Pope, oops, bad comparison, Popes are as evil as the war criminals/terrorists they support. 

     

  9. 5 hours ago, Jariax said:

    So, let's see if I follow:

    Some Christians did some bad things 400+  years ago. Therefore, we should hold them all accountable today. 
    And we don't care that 27 Christians were shot up in a church, because there were more non-whites killed by Christians hundreds of years ago. And if we don't see why that's more important, than we must be racists. 

    Does that about sum it up?

    Not even remotely close, Jariax. 

  10. 1 hour ago, Boges said:

    Clearly we don't have our priorities straight. Why should the US get any coverage when they bombed Cambodia in the 60's. 

     

    Why would you make light of a vicious set of US war crimes, Boges? How would you feel if you were a Cambodian and some evil scum were ordered to use "anything that flies [USA aircraft]on anything that moves on the ground". That is a flat out admission of war crimes, and again, here you are pretending it is no big deal. 

    Why? 

  11. 23 minutes ago, PIK said:

    So Now I hear some guy that was in gitmo is now suing us for 50m, and will settle for 10.5. Trudeau will be paying off these people forever. 

    As Noam Chomsky says, there is an easy way to stop terrorism; 

    "Everybody's worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there's a really easy way: stop participating in it." 

    For the west, that means stop supporting the world's leading terrorist group/nation, by a planetary mile, the US of A. 

    These people are Canadian citizens who have been brutalized by, you all so conveniently forget and ignore, the war criminals/terrorists who illegally invaded many sovereign nations.

  12. 47 minutes ago, Boges said:

    This is why it's pointless to engage in conversation with you. You'll take every conversation to fit your narrative that the US is an Evil Empire. 

    You do realize of course, that that is one of the oldest, most overused propagandist memes going. And considering how good, decent, kind and benevolent the propaganda says the USA is, it should be easy as pie for you to illustrate that. 

    Whenever there is the slightest suggestion of "terrorism" being perpetrated upon the USA, any western nation, the propaganda machine start grinding, sending out meme after meme, message after message about how so hard done by we all are.

    You all know this is stunning hypocrisy of a magnitude that would make Goebbels blush cherry red. 

     

  13. 6 minutes ago, Jariax said:

    The assumption that Christians are to blame, that has become so prevalent, is part of the reason so many people died in Texas.

    Way too vague to address in any fashion.

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    Villiainizing and ridiculing the religious has become so common place, that some will no doubt laud the actions of the shooter. Perhaps if we quit making it 'open season' on Christians in the media, tragedies like this wouldn't happen. 

    Christians have long had a platform, really the only platform, which they used to do a lot of terribly evil things. Now that they have to defend their garbage, and much of it truly is garbage, they think they deserve respect. 

    "christians" were major partners in the genocides against Native Americans and First Nations, not to mention being major partners in vast number of USA war crimes and terrorist acts.

  14. 2 minutes ago, Boges said:

    Because I can pick and choose what I want to debate.

    A cowardly approach, when it sullies all the democratic principles that you pretend to hold dear.

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    The idea that the US is so evil as not to be respected is not an argument I particularly want to have. 

    Tell me something I don't know. That doesn't make your approach any less cowardly.

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    How'd you feel if I derail every thread you're active in with my thoughts on the evils of Justin Trudeau? 

     

    The slaughter of millions all based on lies that supposedly christian people support while whining about 26 insignificant deaths, based ONLY on numbers, reveals a hypocrisy that is both stunning and very unchristian like. 

    You bring up Justin Trudeau whenever you feel it is warranted. That is what freedom of speech is about. 

     

  15. Just now, Boges said:

    This is why it's pointless to engage in conversation with you. You'll take every conversation to fit your narrative that the US is an Evil Empire. 

    I knew you would take this cowardly approach, Boges. But you shouldn't have used such rank propagandist verbiage.

    People with courage who disagreed would just prove me wrong. In fact, you didn't address anything I said, you just fall back to your safe little world of lies and propaganda. 

    That is a very common thing here at MLW. So odd, considering most of these are folks who were born in and to the greatest nations, the ones where healthy debate courses thru your blood, where no topic is too difficult for the hypocrites, born of and raised with the high falutin' democratic principles everyone loves to mouth.

    Y'all are so much better than the folks you all love to denigrate as third world savages. Why? Because no topic is too much for you to face and vanquish!

  16. 2 minutes ago, Boges said:

    Well what's your alternative theory here? 

    False Flag operation to keep the news of the Mueller Investigation off the front page? 

    I have no alternative theory. I have no theory at all. I only point out your incredibly gullible nature and your stunning hypocrisy.

    Notice how so many get their panties in a bunch over 26 people but they aren't the least bit bothered by the slaughter of millions of dark skinned others. How christian!

    They even support, avidly, those that slaughter. How christian!

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    Where's that found in the New Testament? 

    It's the heart and soul of US christianity. Have you never heard of Manifest Destiny? 

  17. 8 minutes ago, PIK said:

    And her dismissing people that don't believe everything they have been told is worse.

    "people that don't believe everything they have been told" would be, let me guess, climate science denying conservatives. The same folks who bought into Iraq WMDs, OBL being responsible for 911, the Taliban were bad guys, 19 Arab hijackers, in other words, some of thee most gullible people on the planet. 

     

  18. 11 minutes ago, Boges said:

    So Fake News? 

    Who else says that a lot? :lol:

    The revelation about the InLaws came straight from the authorities, hard to put spin on that. 

    Just with the few examples I gave you, and the seriousness of those gigantic media lies, you don't believe there is fake news. 

    This guy was as christian as any American except for the limited number of actual good Christians. He was raised on good christian American values, the ones that teach you that it is a good thing to slaughter Native Americans and then brag about your country being so great.

    He was raised on good christian American values, the ones that teach you that it is a good thing to swallow the lies of your always lying US governments and brutalize, terrorizing, rape, torture, murder people for tiny perceived wrongs blown up into their usual major contretemps. 

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