Goddess
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Just now, Winston said:
for political reasons.
Bingo.
This has nothing to do with science.
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2 minutes ago, Winston said:
Yes it is sloppy science or not science.
The issue at this point is there is no control group, there are those that had covid, those without a vaccine and those with covid and those with a vaccine.
Although I am sure someone can bring up the ethical issue with having a control group in a society.
The "control group" of unvaccinated in Canada is about 10%.
You all may be thanking us one day soon.
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8 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Depends on the area. While in the north and some other interior places it is low, in the south west BC (majority of population) vaccination rate of kids under 12 is around 80%
It's really hard to have a discussion with you because you are so ignorant of what is going on.
I don't know where you are getting your information from, but you are a constant source of misinformation.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/kids-vaccination-rates-1.6319976
https://subscriptions.cbc.ca/newsletter_static/messages/coronavirusbrief/2022-01-20/
QuoteTwo months to the day after the vaccine was first approved for this group, fewer than half of all eligible Canadian kids (48.35 per cent) have had at least one shot.
In the U.S., which approved the Pfizer vaccine for those five to 11 about a month earlier than Canada, just 27 per cent of those in that age group have received at least one shot, according to Jan. 12 data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
As kids head back to school, only 10 per cent of those eligible in Hamilton are fully vaccinated
I provided CBC links for you since you only will listen to MSM.
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1 minute ago, Winston said:
If you mean by pure mass of data numbers, than I could see a trend.
It still does not provide clarity on how is it determined that what is experienced is due to the "vaccine".
For example right after the vaccine I had sever issues for 2 weeks, is it correlated, possibly, but I was not in a controlled environment. If it happens again right after the vaccine I would be less skeptical.
Still there may be other factors. Hence why I think questions should be asked and more data allocated properly.
I agree.
Which is why these systems for reporting should have been in place BEFORE the jabs were forced on everyone. It was totally irresponsible for both the governments and Big Pharma to have NO solid reporting system for deaths and adverse reactions. Now they can just say "No causation." And by forcing everyone to get jabbed, they also eliminate a control group. No one can say heart attacks are increasing in young people if they are all having heart attacks and there is no control group to compare to. No one can say cancers, or neurological disorders are increasing, if there is no control group.
Why are they so desperate to eliminate the control group?
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Fortunately, from what \i see, most parents and grandparents are weighing the long-term risks and not thinking selfishly, like Aristedes.
There are a TON of comments from people on all the news articles saying, "You forced me to take the vaccines by holding my job over my head, but I will fight like a Mama Bear to protect my kids from this."
That gives me hope.
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1 minute ago, Aristides said:
Ya, I know, the fatality rate would be exactly the same and the economy wouldn't have been affected if we had done nothing and had no vaccines. Gotcha.
Nice deflection though.
No one said "do nothing".
There's a lot of in between "doing nothing" and creating all the damage we've experienced and the mess we've left our children and grandchildren.
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9 minutes ago, Aristides said:
If it was my 8 yr old grand daughter who suffered organ damage which affected her later in life because she wasn't vaccinated I'm sure you would understand. Remember, not getting vaccinated for chicken pox and catching it leaves you open to shingles later in life which can be much worse than chicken pox. You really don't know what you are talking about.
Except children are at statistically zero risk. You keep forgetting that. They are not at risk. It's you who is at risk. So you are forcing her to take a risk. And what happens if the "other" scientists are right and her fertility is affected? We already know 100% that women are experiencing menstrual changes from the jab. There are no long-term studies to show it is safe for children.
How will you feel then - knowing you forced a medical procedure on her for an illness she had zero risk from, when she cannot have children?
See this is the difference - I think about those things. You just do what you're told by people who do not have your best interests at heart, only profits, with no thinking.
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3 minutes ago, Aristides said:
I never said I don't believe it. What I don't believe is your blowing it all out of proportion. So far 9.77 billion shots have been given world wide. That's over 2 billion more than the worlds population.
Yet you don't think destroying the economy and the world's social fabric, firing people from their careers, fining them, over an illness with a slightly higher mortality rate than the flu and a 99.5% survival rate is bowing anything out of proportion?
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20 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Why one would have two and not a third is beyond me.
If I had 3 or 4 polio shots in less than a year and then got polio, I'd have some serious questions.
Unless I was braindead, like you.
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17 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Why one would have two and not a third is beyond me.
Yes, yes. Get the fourth, too. And the fifth, sixth, seventh....... keep playing Russian Roulette.
While you're at it, go to Russia and get their Spudnick V vax. Then go to China and get their Sinopharm vax.
Can't be too protected, right?
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2 hours ago, Aristides said:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/long-term-effects/index.html
Mice nuts. Right?
Back to your conspiracy sites.
Yes, I get it.
You don't believe there are any deaths or adverse reactions from the jabs. It didn't happen to you, so therefore, anyone who had issues is a liar. Or it's "just a coincidence."
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1 hour ago, Winston said:
Vaccine reporting system that is self reported would not give great results. Unless the data suggested a reoccurring issue, still not exactly causation.
Unless the CDC has strong data it seems they are just making a blanket statement. Unless the data suggested a reoccurring issue, still not exactly causation.
I agree.
Since these are all the reactions people say they are experiencing AFTER the jabs, not BEFORE.
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34 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Well you aren't very clear what you are driving at. Why don't you express the same scepticism about the sources people like Goddess throw out there. Excuse me if I am sceptical about where you are coming from.
Here's what I find utterly sick about you - if it was YOUR 8 yr old granddaughter who suffered for a week after the jab and then died of a heart attack, I highly doubt you would be saying it was "'just a coincidence."
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Just now, Aristides said:
Did anyone bother to ask the doctor if he said that? Did he deny it?
Don't worry about it.
You've clearly already made up your mind that every death or maiming from the vaccine is a "coincidence."
Get back under your blanket.
Don't forget your teddy bear.
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2 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Ya, what do places like the Mayo Clinic know.
They know it's an illness with an IFR 0.05% higher than the flu and a fatality rate of .5% for my age group.
What's your point?
That I should live in fear like you do and demand children die for me in the meager hope that their deaths will lower my risk to .2%?
No thanks.
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Just now, Aristides said:
Funny how you don’t worry about long term effects of the disease which are far more likely to be serious.
No, I don't worry excessively about an illness with an IFR 0.05% higher than the flu and with less than .5% fatality rate for someone in my age group.
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2 minutes ago, Aristides said:
So the doctor saying it was is just hearsay. There is no evidence he actually said it.
Yes. The father is lying about the whole thing. The boy is alive and well. ?
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7 minutes ago, Aristides said:
So, did they determine a cause of death. I’m not saying the vaccine couldn’t have anything to do with it but coincidence is not enough.
No, they didn't. Reading comprehension is a difficulty for you, isn't it?
First examiner said "inconclusive" so the father got another to look at the case. That one said Yes, it was the vaccine but doesn't want to lose his job by saying so.
Funny how a 17 yr old healthy boy dies with an enlarged heart less than 2 weeks after taking an experimental vax that is known to cause heart inflammation in young males but it's just a coincidence to you........
God, you are truly stupid.
I really do hope that your granddaughter doesn't experience one of these "coincidences." Fortunately, it doesn't affect girls as much.
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Oh and Aristedes - this boy didn't die on the hockey ice.
His mother found him dead in his bedroom.
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The British medical Journal has been slapped with a FALSE rating due to "factcheckers."
Particularly in regard to a whistleblower from Vantavia (who helps carry out the Pfizer trials).
QuoteBrook Jackson began providing The BMJ with dozens of internal company documents, photos, audio recordings, and emails.
Godlee and Abbasi explain,
“These materials revealed a host of poor clinical trial research practices occurring at Ventavia that could impact data integrity and patient safety. We also discovered that, despite receiving a direct complaint about these problems over a year ago, the FDA did not inspect Ventavia’s trial sites.”
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26 minutes ago, Aristides said:
I get a kick out of you guys. Everyone who dies after getting vaccinated died because of the vaccine but everyone who died of the disease either had a million co morbidities, was ancient or really died of something else.
Ummm, that's exactly what the provincial public health ministers and the stats are saying.
The vast majority of deaths are among the elderly, the obese and those with multiple comorbidities.
They also now admit to calling deaths covid deaths which are not.
They also are now admitting that a lot of covid hospitalizations, are not.
They also now admit that some of the ICU counts are inaccurate. Alberta was one province who just admitted that.
I think their lies are catching up to them.
You should probably stop repeating their past lies, since they are now openly admitting them.
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This is the boy I was talking about whose father is going mental trying to get someone to listen to him.
Sean Hartman: 17-Year-Old Dies Shortly After Receiving Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine : The COVID World
You can follow the father on Twitter.
I recently watched an interview with him, he is clearly still heartbroken and getting increasingly frustrated.
One medical examiner told him it wasn't the vaccine, but offered no other explanation except that his heart was mysteriously enlarged. "Inconclusive". No intention to investigate further.
The father asked another medical examiner to to look at the case - that one said it was definitely the vaccine, but could not put that on paper for fear of losing his job.
You can imagine how this adds to a parent's pain, who has lost a child this way.
Or.....the father is nothing but a lying clown.
It's really up to you.
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10 minutes ago, Aristides said:
Thousands have not died of the vax.
Oh Good Lord.
You really need to wake up.
Glad your grandbaby is okay. Others are not so lucky.
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1 minute ago, Aristides said:
and they aren't now
Wrong.
But I believe it's because you don't' really give a rip how many kids die for you. Thousands of kids could die of the vax and you would still think it's worth it.
Time to Declare Endemic
in Federal Politics in Canada
Posted
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-advisers-decide-against-covid-vaccines-healthy-12-15-year-olds-2021-09-03/
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58438669
The science on covid vax for children is far from settled.
Entirely up to you and your family, but many know this and do not want to risk their children's long-term health by signing them up to be part of an experiment. They are not bad people for choosing not to, just as you choosing to put your children into the experiment, doesn't make you a good person.