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If they were trying change the FPTP system in a minority government then that would be an outrage. The proposals in the OP are quite common sense and only prove to expand access to voting. Why would PP oppose this?

I don't think there's a debate. I've mentioned Sodium Ion batteries may be a workable solution to the cold issue. Or that arctic climates may be the last part of the world that transition. Which will mean even higher costs for fossil fuel. But hey they already spend insane prices for food, so. . .

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-assistance-in-dying-mental-illness-delay-1.7098313 I honestly don't know how something like this can really be on the table. Do we really care about treating Mental Health if we allow people to off themselves? I've heard of people trying to apply to MAID because they can't afford a certain standard of living. IMHO MAID should only be maid available to spare someone suffering from a terminal disease. Otherwise, you can off yourself.

EVs aren't "there" yet. . . But an EV was the top selling car, of any kind, globally in 2023. https://www.motor1.com/news/706258/tesla-model-y-worlds-top-selling-vehicle-2023/#:~:text=Tesla%2C the California-based EV,selling vehicle in the world.

Sure in far northen climates EV adoption will be slower. So will renewables and easy access to nutritional food. A vast majority of Canadians live less than 2 hours from the US border. A vast majority of Canadians don't experience such frequent cold. Also this thread is focused on Ontario so. . . . I was at the movies on Saturday and saw an Ad by the Ontario government touting their commitment to EVs and Battery development. Also, in case you haven't heard, Ontario is currently being led by the Progressive Conservative government led by Doug Ford.

Wow all 12 people in Northern Saskatchewan aren't adopting EVs yet. What a setback for the industry.

The version of car I have, The Hyundai Ioniq, was available in Hybrid, PHEV and EV when I was in the market for a new car. I seriously considered the PHEV as it was cheaper and it would mean I didn't have to kit my garage out with an EV charger. But the range was still under my daily commute, so I'd still have to budget for gasoline every month. I'm perfectly happy with my EV decision. Hyundai has since moved the Ioniq brand to 100% EVs.

Yes. 12 years from now and multiple car generations away. Good thing most modern EVs do 300 kms or more. Again modern EVs can charge in under 1 hour using a fast DC Charger. You can do that with EVs too. I know someone who just got a Tesla. He doesn't have a Nema 40 connection but still plugs into the wall and gets the range he's looking for. Yes, but it's a half measure. It does nothing to move battery tech to the point where the problems you address can be ironed out. PHEV are just glorified Hybrids. The Ontario government still issues a Green plate for PHEV. But in Europe they've realized some automakers are just adding a tiny battery to sidestep the process. Sales are plummeting in Europe. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1136692_plug-in-hybrid-sales-stumble-in-europe-better-chance-in-the-us

Just for the record, there is a Federal rebate for a PHEV. It's half an EV though. And if a vast majority of people drive less than 50 kms a day, the concern with EVs goes away, especially if prices come down with Sodium Ion batteries.

That's an automaker decision. The problem with Plug-in Hybrids is that they all have a relatively pittance of a battery, so they're just glorified Hybrids. You get these Gas Guzzling SUVs with a Small battery that can maybe get 50 kms on EV only and then become more inefficient because of the added weight once it moves to Hybrid mode. The Chevy Volt and Honda Clarity were PHEV's that had relatively decent EV only ranges, Chevy and Honda both shitcanned them.

You don't think Government subsidies go into the Oil Industry? Battery Tech already has the ability to supplant a good majority of anyone's personal vehicle need. But but but, I want to drive 800 kms a day near the Arctic Circle!!!! Most people that drive cars don't. You also missed the part in my post where I mentioned Sodium Ion batteries. Do we have sufficient Sodium on Earth?

Are you purposely being obtuse? We're clearly talking about the current generation of EVs that have a much wider public appeal.

I will admit cold presents a myriad of problems for EV adoptors. My Windshield washer fluid line freezes. My own fault for not pre-emptively using more winter focused fluid ahead of the time I guess. Good thing it doesn't get this cold very often in the Greater Toronto area. One thing I'm not having an issue with is charging. It seems Sodium Ion Batteries solve a lot of the issues with Cold. Much cheaper to produce too. Again, we're well into the early adopter phase. The only people that have EVs right now are people that want one. In over a decade, if the EV situation is the same as it is now, skeptics may have a point. Right now it's all pearl clutching.

The battery is under warranty though. The complication here is that it was the casing around the battery that failed or something. So is it a Hyundai issue or an Insurance issue as the incident happened as a result of a collision and not a battery failure.

So you're objecting to the transparency? In Canada, the deaths were less the concern than the taxing of Hospitals so that COVID patients would overwhelm Healthcare's ability to treat other ailments. In hindsight we could see this as an overreaction. But at the time, would people have felt comfortable not having measures in place to reduce COVID infections, while the virus was clearly killing people?

I've tried to demonstrate over and over again, without many comprehending it, even if Natural Gas was used to continue to generate electricity and fill the gap in demand as we move towards electrification and more renewable electricity, we're still way better off in terms of emissions as EVs and Heat Pumps are WAY!!!! more efficient than ICE vehicles and Gas Furnaces. Not to mention the emissions it takes to physically refine and transport gasoline and natural gas to where it needs to be instead of a centralized location to generate electricity.

You're the one that said "Carbon is Good." ICE vehicles don't just beltch out Carbon.

Which is why the Ford F-150 Lighting is a bit of a fools errand. The battery is too large to be practical. A car like the Hyundai Ioniq 5 would meeting 90% of a drivers needs and can charge pretty quick.

Lock yourself in your garage with the car running and see how good all that Carbon is for you. It's funny how you call other people stupid all while saying something so ridiculously stupid yourself.

I'm sure all these people who won't get EVs because so far there isn't an EV Pick-up Trucks that go 1,000 kms will be lining up to buy that. ?

WTF is a Lupo? Here's an article/blog showing cars people actually buy. The only cars achieving anything appreciably under 6l/100km are hybrids. https://www.castlegartoyota.com/blog/2023/01/31/the-top-9-most-fuel-efficient-cars-on-the-market#:~:text=Starting off strong%2C the Toyota,CE%2C SE and LE trims.

Sure! A lot of the same sentiments in your BBC article. That in Switzerland they're taught to respect the weapon and not that's a God given right that they should have access to weapons. Posted just now Russia and switzerland are devleoped nations. So is mexico for that matter. And that's just some of them. my anti virus freaks out going to that site But it doesn't matter. The fact is they have lots of guns and few shootings. You can try to twist that but it's a simple truth. Russia has few guns but lots of murders So because some people are really good at re-loading, that means that guns with high-capacity magazines are no more dangerous to real life humans than a WW2 era gun? I guess Military's around the world should be able to save a lot of money with this information.

I think I specified in my comments I was talking about developed nations. Here's a counter to your Switzerland argument; https://impakter.com/why-gun-ownership-switzerland-not-same-us/ Which is what we're talking about. The type of gun, not the fact people own guns. You could, and I could call you a bigoted homophobe. I don't think you've avoid pretty caustic ad hominem comments in this thread. You're clearly passionate about this. I try to avoid such things because it lowers the decorum of the debate. Who's us guys?

Energy storage will be a game changer for renewable energy in the coming years.

A lot going on in this post. I really don't feel like multi-posting. I will concede that "Culturally" the US is a lot angrier a country. I do think other countries have a better relationship with guns. They're not seen as a God-given right because of some amendment devised when they were fighting a domestic war. Their politics are way more polarized. Though I see some similar elements coming with the way people dislike JT. Back when I was "young" I really disliked Jean Chretien and Dalton McGuinty. It never once occurred to me to put an Eff Dalton bumper sticker on me car. Earlier in the thread we discussed cars. An angry disaffected person could use a car to kill scores of people. But driving cars are also highly regulated. Imagine if gun owners had to buy insurance in case their weapons was actually used to kill someone . . . like designed. It seems a faction of Americans want as few regulations on guns as possible. Regarding angry. I actually had the same thing happen to me where someone passed me on the shoulder when I was in the Carpool lane. He chipped my windshield because rocks were flying from the shoulder. It was an Old man with his wife in the passenger seat. We see from the incident in Sault Ste Marie, that violence is possible by anyone, including a family man.