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30 minutes ago, ironstone said:
This segment on Marketplace was pretty interesting. It was kind of funny to see Stephen Guilbeault checking his watch when getting asked questions. I guess he clearly is not used to that.
I think a lot of the Minister's comments were fair.
What Cold Weather range do they want posted? 0? -10? -40?
And pricing per KWh is silly. You should pay more for the speed it takes to charge the car.
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4 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:
I think that is overconfident.
Their military is prideful and happy to fight to the death for their motherland.
There is an existential crisis in the west.
If China went to war with the US, the will of China would easily overpower the technological advantages that the US has.
Both countries know its a lose lose war, however.
Just like with Russia, it's a MADD situation.
A future war would revolve around control of Taiwan though. It's far more difficult to get into a military quagmire (like Ukraine) on a mountainous island.
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54 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
who do you think issues the oermits for that airshow? And did you see any canadian military planes there?
Sorry but airshows have since their inception been at least partly political and the organizers do listen to 'suggestions' .
Sounds from other reports like ev's aren't doing that well and people are moving back to plug in hybrids a bit.
Well Toyota and GM were there and they didn't have their EVs front and centre because they're the few manufacturers that aren't really doing much in that segment right now. GM didn't even have the Bolt. I did get to sit in the Hummer EV which is a comically large an impractical car. But still cool.
Volvo, on the other hand, only had EVs, IIRC.
Subaru which only has 1 EV model had 2 or 3 versions of it.
Got to see a Cybertruck as well. 😀
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19 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:
The point of my latest diatribe against EV's is that they do not work well at low temperatures. Which I think we all understand.
This is in Edmonton. You're in Ottawa, aren't you? The land of heated underground garages,where federalis have groomed and maintained the streets to the finest level to impress visiting dignitaries on how clean and well-developed Canadian cities are. Meanwhile just 100 km in any direction, that's where the real Canada begins.
The main issue for places outside of big cities is a lack of infrastructure, resources, remote locations when you do breakdown, and cold winters. All challenges to the government's plan to force-feed Canadians on EV's, whether they like it or not. Hence, thead title.
But really, who in their right mind would order EV schoobuses, especially somewhere way out there in bum-f*ck Alberta? I mean, such massive heavy vehicles, and cold cold winters. Both a limiting factor in EV design, for which it makes sense to use lightweight vehicles.
They must have really bought some EV salesman's song and dance routine. Probably went to one of them auto shows, I bet. 🕺 🕺 🕺
And I suspect more remote communities will be the last to adopt electrification. Or just use Natural Gas. I've seen Nat Gas Buses in my community (Not Ottawa).
I don't think we'll be off Natural Gas or Propane by 2035.
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14 hours ago, Aristides said:
Interesting interview with the US ambassador to China. He said China is a far bigger threat than the USSR ever was. The Soviets had a strong military but a crap economy. The same goes for Russia. China has both military and economic power.
China is in a demographics crisis right now. They could lose half their population in the next few decades.
I think China is also quite easy to dominate in Naval theatres.
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6 hours ago, blackbird said:
Many seniors on a pension will pay the lion's share of expensive drugs for heart conditions and other medical problems while certain people like diabetes patients and women wanting birth control, who might have lots of money, will be covered by taxpayers.
Anything this government touches is a disaster.
Good that Poilievre is surging ahead in the polls. There is hope.
Don't Seniors already benefits from Single-payer Pharmacare?
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On 2/25/2024 at 6:57 PM, OftenWrong said:
There there. Don't be an angwy boy.
I suppose the truth is hard to accept when it takes you out of your safe space. No one wants to wake up to hear bad news, when they were all snuggly in their bed.
But I can't help it.
"Specifically, the city claims the buses have fallen well short of Proterra's performance guarantees for Edmonton's climate that specified an operating range of 328 km at the beginning of battery life and 268 km in extreme cold."
Edmonton faces questions following $82-million electric bus failure
Now inhale slowly, and repeat after me dude:
Guzfrava...
So your example of EV failure are buses purchased in 2016 that aren't performing up to standard.
You do realize it's 2024? Standards for EVs are much higher. I look at the car I bought in 2020. It serves my purpose but the range I achieve isn't acceptable for any manufacturer.
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I was at the Canadian International Autoshow this past weekend.
Just about every manufacturer had their EV front and centre. So it's not exactly true that the move to Electric is driven by virtue signalling governments.
If people refuse to adopt EVs the deadline set by most governments is useless. There is genuine interest in this segment.
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5 minutes ago, blackbird said:
Changing the electoral system won't help. That is a smokescreen. We are 2.2 trillion dollars in debt. The system is broken. Looking to other countries won't help either.
We are in a crisis. Homeless encampments, massive housing shortage, high food costs, failing medical system. What more do you need to know to see we are a broken country.
What's Canada debt and where's the government spending money? | CTV News
And PP will come in and fix it all. 🤣
BTW, if he proposes taking away the Daycare subsidy, I'll go back to voting for the Liberals. We pay enough taxes, might as well get the benefits from it.
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1 minute ago, blackbird said:
The country's whole system is so dysfunctional now I don't know if it can ever be fixed. Certainly not with the kind of liberal and left politicians we have now. It would take a miracle.
Note this thread is about expanding access to voting. So you're just being an old man shaking at a Cloud.
I'm curious, what country should we look to, to find such financial restraint as an example? The US dwarfs Canada in debt:GDP Ratio.
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2 minutes ago, blackbird said:
The people demand everything and politicians try to appease them; spend, spend, spend. It is also why we now have massive government debt.
"Adjusted for current inflation, Canada’s total provincial and federal debt increased from $1.1 trillion to $2.1 trillion between 2007-2008 and 2022-2023, according to a study by the right-wing think tank Fraser Institute."
What's Canada debt and where's the government spending money? | CTV News
So what programs should we cut? At a Federal Level.
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10 hours ago, blackbird said:
Do you want good, responsible government or just more social services, taxes, and a welfare state? A large portion of the population think of government as the nanny that should provide everything. That is why we have NDP and Liberals.
Nice False Choice you present.
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24 minutes ago, blackbird said:
Do you think just making it easy for people who do not normally vote or know anything about politics will favour the Liberals and NDP who promise the world and don't believe in restraint spending?
7 minutes ago, eyeball said:No I don't. Why, do you?
It's the racist dog whistle that Liberals bring in voters. As if immigrants are automatically Liberal.
Just now, blackbird said:Yes, I do because many people do not pay attention to politics. So when politicians like Trudeau and Singh promises goodies as was the case many times, the least politically knowledgeable people are easier to con. This is why they want everyone they can possibly get to vote. The Democrats in the U.S. use that strategy and allow mail-in voting which apparently gets more votes for Democrats. People that don't normally vote or pay attention to politics will generally vote for the party that makes the most Socialist promises.
Where-as Conservatives want voter apathy and a low turn-out. Because they know they're in the minority.
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If they were trying change the FPTP system in a minority government then that would be an outrage.
The proposals in the OP are quite common sense and only prove to expand access to voting.
Why would PP oppose this?
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26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Awww muffin - love those salty tears
That's just going on the ever growing pile. But it's interesting that you'd say it's an "obvious" conclusion. So you agree that EV's are less reliable in the cold and not suitable where reliability is a factor.
I don't think there's a debate.
I've mentioned Sodium Ion batteries may be a workable solution to the cold issue.
Or that arctic climates may be the last part of the world that transition. Which will mean even higher costs for fossil fuel. But hey they already spend insane prices for food, so. . .
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-assistance-in-dying-mental-illness-delay-1.7098313
QuoteThe federal government has announced it is seeking another pause on medical assistance in dying (MAID) provisions that would cover those suffering solely from mental illnesses.
This is the second time the government has sought to delay the expansion of MAID since the Superior Court of Quebec struck down the government's original 2016 MAID legislation because it was limited to those whose deaths were "reasonably foreseeable."
Health Minister Mark Holland and Justice Minister Arif Virani made the announcement Monday outside the House of Commons. Holland said Canada's health system is still "not ready" for the MAID expansion.
I honestly don't know how something like this can really be on the table.
Do we really care about treating Mental Health if we allow people to off themselves?
I've heard of people trying to apply to MAID because they can't afford a certain standard of living.
IMHO MAID should only be maid available to spare someone suffering from a terminal disease. Otherwise, you can off yourself.
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EVs aren't "there" yet. . .
But an EV was the top selling car, of any kind, globally in 2023.
QuoteAn earthquake shook the auto industry in 2023. It wasn't the post-pandemic effects, nor the semiconductor shortage. The big wave came from a company that turned 20 years old last year. Tesla, the California-based EV brand and one of Elon Musk's first companies, now builds the best-selling vehicle in the world.
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6 hours ago, CdnFox said:
Oh - sorry i forgot you're in ontario and think nothing outside of your own province matters in the slightest.
What an ass. This is a good example of why nobody trusts leftist on the issue. "We have legitimate concerns". "So? You're not from Ontario so eff off".
Sure in far northen climates EV adoption will be slower. So will renewables and easy access to nutritional food.
A vast majority of Canadians live less than 2 hours from the US border. A vast majority of Canadians don't experience such frequent cold.
Also this thread is focused on Ontario so. . . .
I was at the movies on Saturday and saw an Ad by the Ontario government touting their commitment to EVs and Battery development.
Also, in case you haven't heard, Ontario is currently being led by the Progressive Conservative government led by Doug Ford.
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Wow all 12 people in Northern Saskatchewan aren't adopting EVs yet. What a setback for the industry.
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The version of car I have, The Hyundai Ioniq, was available in Hybrid, PHEV and EV when I was in the market for a new car.
I seriously considered the PHEV as it was cheaper and it would mean I didn't have to kit my garage out with an EV charger.
But the range was still under my daily commute, so I'd still have to budget for gasoline every month. I'm perfectly happy with my EV decision.
Hyundai has since moved the Ioniq brand to 100% EVs.
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15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
So they offer half the money and also will be banning their sale by 2035. Yeah - not really 'supporting' the market are they.
Yes. 12 years from now and multiple car generations away.
QuoteNot in the slightest. On average people may drive that but people need to be able to drive more when they want to - and now ALL the problems come back up.
Good thing most modern EVs do 300 kms or more.
QuoteDon't have time to charge your hybrid? No problem. don't have time to charge your ev? oooooops.
Again modern EVs can charge in under 1 hour using a fast DC Charger.
QuoteCan't get a charger at home for an ev? That's a big issue. Can't get one for a hybrid? No big deal - plug into the wall and if it's not fully charged in the morning no sweat.
You can do that with EVs too. I know someone who just got a Tesla. He doesn't have a Nema 40 connection but still plugs into the wall and gets the range he's looking for.
QuoteA Phev eliminates the problems with full EV's. And those are serious problems. But it still delivers the vast majority of the benefits of an EV as far as environmental issues go. And we could be adopting it everywhere tomorrow. Which means actual reductions would nose dive overall.
Yes, but it's a half measure. It does nothing to move battery tech to the point where the problems you address can be ironed out. PHEV are just glorified Hybrids.
QuoteBut it doesn't virtue signal loud enough. Sooo the gov't is not interested. Because it's not the environment that actually matters, it's the optics.
The Ontario government still issues a Green plate for PHEV. But in Europe they've realized some automakers are just adding a tiny battery to sidestep the process.
Sales are plummeting in Europe.
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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
Not at all. We give massive subsidies for EV's, but little to none for hybrids. That is a gov't decision and it drives the market. if the gov't sent the signal that it would focus on hybrids that's what the automakers would be building and designing
That's not the problem - that's the benefit.
Right now you get gas guzzling suv's with NO battery because there's just not the infrastructure and price point to support it. The vast majority of people drive less than 50 km a day. So let them do the first 50 on battery and even if they drive 10 in 'gas guzzler' mode it's still a major net benefit. You'll get 90 percent of the benefits of electric but you'd get much much wider adaption.
And - if the gov't set out some parameters and automakers sunk real money into development (because there's a guaranteed market) then you could significantly improve the hybrids to find that perfect balance and create the perfect engines etc.
Of course they did - the gov't doesn't support them at all - the gov't is demanding PURE EV's. The gov't says all cars must be ev's by 2035 or whateve r- why would you continue development of something the gov't is going to wipe out the market for?
If the gov't said "we're really going to push phev's as a bridge solution while we build things out and the tech improves" we'd have tonnes of options and people would adapt to them much faster.
Just for the record, there is a Federal rebate for a PHEV. It's half an EV though.
And if a vast majority of people drive less than 50 kms a day, the concern with EVs goes away, especially if prices come down with Sodium Ion batteries.
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54 minutes ago, CdnFox said:
IF we were REALLY smart we'd probably be focusing our world on making the very best most efficient plug in hybrids. We could probably make that jump tomorrow.
That's an automaker decision.
The problem with Plug-in Hybrids is that they all have a relatively pittance of a battery, so they're just glorified Hybrids.
You get these Gas Guzzling SUVs with a Small battery that can maybe get 50 kms on EV only and then become more inefficient because of the added weight once it moves to Hybrid mode.
The Chevy Volt and Honda Clarity were PHEV's that had relatively decent EV only ranges, Chevy and Honda both shitcanned them.
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1 minute ago, cannuck said:
and it took 120 years and hundreds of billions in government subsidies to circumvent what over a century of the marketplace had no chance of succeeding. Going to the Li Ion road is incredibly irresponsible. There is not enough known lithium reserves on the planet to put even a small dent in the needs for our global transportation needs. The second level of incredible stupidity is governments knowing full well Li Ion BEVs are a dead end technology jumping onto the Hydrogen Economy bandwagon.
All things should only be driven by market conditions - that governments should influence by regulation and taxation....NOT by politician choosiong winners and losers with massive subsidies.
You don't think Government subsidies go into the Oil Industry?
Battery Tech already has the ability to supplant a good majority of anyone's personal vehicle need.
But but but, I want to drive 800 kms a day near the Arctic Circle!!!! Most people that drive cars don't.
You also missed the part in my post where I mentioned Sodium Ion batteries. Do we have sufficient Sodium on Earth?
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I would suggest that's the plight of most long serving parties, people get sick of them.