WestCoastRunner

I don't think that is exactly what cybercoma is alluding to but I find it interesting as to the reaction of the men on this forum to this native woman's desire to marry a native man.

Is there truth to this? It is an interesting response. I never thought of it this way. But it does raise questions in my mind.

Good grief. Start a new thread about this subject. It has nothing to do with this thread.

No one should ever leave a young child alone with a dog or in close proximity to a dog. Just too much unpredictable behaviour. I agree with your statement. We are forgetting the victim in this case. It was a young toddler. While we wait for the courts to decide on these dogs, adults need to take more responsibility and remove the threat of this happening to young children.

Well, we definitely need more men too! Then, I would suggest: Federal women in politics (or just 'women in politics') Women in Science and Technology (lots of great success stories to cover here) Start-Ups in Technology

I should have got my thoughts together before I responded. What I am getting at is, I would like to see ways that could attract more women to this forum. It feels lonely to sometimes be one of the few women here. This forum needs more diversity and if we can add sub forums to attract this diversity, let's think of ways to do so.

What I mean is, 'if a woman types in 'federal politics in canada', would the search engines include this 'new sub forum' in their search results'?

Charles, I have a question regarding the search engines. How do they crawl these sub-forums and pick up key words? Do they pick up sub forum headings. For example, if we included a sub-forum under federal politics such as women in federal politics, would the search engines pick up on this heading in order to attract more women interested in 'women in politics'?

How does this possibly have anything to do with the title of this thread.

This has turned into a ridiculous debate with silly hypothetical scenarios. The thread is about a native woman who has decided to choose a native man to father her children.

I don't understand this statement. This is what the University is doing. They are barring gay students, unless they choose to go 'back in the closet'. How is society progressing when these practices are allowed in Canada. Quite frankly, I don't really care if there are universities in the states that allow this. Trinity University would be the first one in Canada that forces students to sign a covenant such as this. We should be standing up and saying how 'abhorrent' this practice is. Regardless of whether it's legally right or not, it is against public policies in Ontario. This gives them the right to not accredit this institution unless the Supreme Court decides otherwise. This thread is going in circles regarding the legality of the covenant. It will ultimately be left up to the Supreme Court. But when I started this thread, I was thinking more along the lines of 'is this covenant in the best interest of Canadians'. I should have rephrased the title of this thread. This thread has certainly caused some of us to look deeper into 'freedom of religion' and how to balance religion against human rights.

Forcing students to sign a covenant that is discriminatory to the gay community goes against the policies of Ontario.

Why do you think this is mob mentality? It is in the public interest of the citizens of Ontario, so they have decided.

Another issue with forcing students to sign this covenant is the example below: What if a student's parents were willing to pay for their education, housing etc, but only if they attended this University. And what if that student had not 'come out' yet. In order for them to get this education, they would need to sign this covenant which clearly is prejudicial to who they are. Why not just get rid of the covenant?

We are not professionals. The comment above related to this forum.

Humans have feelings and emotions when responding to issues that they are concerned about.

Using 'religious freedom' as an argument is an easy way out for the University but it simply does not apply here. It's about a University forcing its students to sign a document that discriminates against LGBTQ members of the public. Ontario made a decision to protect the public interest of their province and rightfully so. Another issue that I have wondered about, "what if a student decides in their 2nd or 3rd year that they are gay"? They would be forced to deny their personal identity if they wanted to finish the program. It's the old 'don't ask, don't tell'. Haven't we moved beyond that.

That is pretty much what they have said. There is no difference.

Seriously! You've got to be kidding me. Does this comment make you feel superior at some level?

Waldo, I have one more for you, sorry! This is a Canadian 'Happy' video based on the song with some great shots of Vancouver.

Christians in Canada can believe as they like but their beliefs (based on the bible) and the University to discriminate based upon these beliefs are discriminatory. They have created a barrier to everyone attending or wanting to attend the university. NS and Ontario have indicated that prejudicial beliefs have no place in Canadian society. We are a progressive country, let's not move backwards.

And this is your rebuttal against a very important decision made by the Upper Canada of Law Society?

"sexual intimacy that violates the sacredness of marriage between a man and a woman" This is the deal Tim. They are discriminating against gay men and women. I would like to think that Canada has risen above and beyond other countries.

An interesting quote from Shauna Van Praagh, who is a law professor at McGill and president of the Canadian Association of Law teachers: "It’s clearly foreseeable that law students at Trinity Western will question their institution’s fundamental tenets. Indeed law students are particularly adept at challenging rules attempting to fix the permissible range of human behaviours and relationships. Trinity Western’s law school should expect and indeed encourage its own students to do so." Let's hope that the future law students at Trinity do their best to overturn this covenant.

Their lawyers are in discussions with them.