WestCoastRunner
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Pope Francis has called for end to capital punishment. What an incredible statement coming from the Catholic Church. The Pope has indicated:
"Pope Francis says nothing can justify the use of the death penalty, and there is no “right” way to humanely kill another person." He fully rejects the death sentence for prisoners and hopes to abolish the death penalty around the world. In Canada, the last people executed was in 1962.
What does the Pope's opinion mean to the Catholic Politicians? What does it mean to Christian followers around the world?
I know that we have a number of Christian followers on this forum. What do they think? Personally, I think it 's about time.
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I have tried really hard to read and respond to posts that are important to me but I have given up. When I see posters like omni and cyber being suspended and others just dropping like flies I don’t have much faith in the integrity of this place. When the intelligence level of respondents creeps back up then maybe more people will start contributing.
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1 hour ago, dialamah said:
Perhaps its like gay kids listening to Christians talk about how unnatural homosexuality, and how unnacceptable they are to God, so much so that God will damn them eternally for something they cannot even control.
Who wouldn't get really depressed and think they're better off dead? What an insensitive, discouraging message it is we send. It's downright cruel to make them feel that way.
You are so incredible with your thoughtful and intelligent responses. Keep up the great work Dia!!
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Just now, Hal 9000 said:
Well, God sorta pull the nuke on Sodom and Ghommorah. Sort of a reset, i guess.
You may think that’s an incredibly smart response but it makes no sense to me since I’m an atheist. You are going to have to spell it out for me.
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A wonderful essay by Dan Kaser that I hope people will read: 'What are Christians to do about those pesky gay children'.
He addresses a conversation that Franklin Graham and James Dobson had on a radio program about how they believe Christians and the church should respond to LGBT people and specifically to gay children.
Here are some excerpts:
QuoteThe inaccurate statements they made are the types of inaccuracies that have led well-meaning Christian parents to throw their gay children out of their home, that have led gay children to abandon their faith, and that have even led LGBTQ children to take their own lives. How big is the problem? On Christian forums that provide emotional support for gay teens and young adults that are considering “coming out” to their families, it is standard practice to advise these young people to have alternate living arrangements in place prior to “coming out.” Why? Because the experience of being rejected by their family and forced from their home is so commonplace. Because of these kinds of consequences, inaccuracies of the kind held forth by Graham and Dobson must not be left unchallenged, especially when the persons espousing such fallacies are persons of tremendous influence. The costs are simply too high.
Franklin Graham: “We have allowed the Enemy to come into our churches. I was talking to some Christians and they were talking about how they invited these gay children to come into their home and to come into the church and that they were wanting to influence them. And I thought to myself, they’re not going to influence those kids; those kids are going to influence those parent’s children. What happens is we think we can fight by smiling and being real nice and loving. We have to understand who the Enemy is and what he wants to do. He wants to devour our homes. He wants to devour this nation and we have to be so careful who we let our kids hang out with. We have to be so careful who we let into the churches.”
A moment later, after saying that gay people could go to heaven if they repented of their sins and accepted Christ, Graham said: “You cannot stay gay and continue to call yourself a Christian. You can’t do it.”
It appears that Graham thinks that being gay is a choice, since he suggests people can just stop being gay. So what does the Bible have to say about whether or not being gay is a choice?
Nothing. We can have great and lengthy theological debates about what the Bible says about sexual relationships as it relates to being gay, but there can be no debate about the origins of sexual orientation because the Bible never speaks to the subject. It only speaks to our behavior.
Make no mistake: People will die as a result of their remarks. Parents will hear these errant teachings, believe them, and be influenced to reject gay children they otherwise might have helped—sometimes even their own. As a result of that, some of those gay children will take their own lives. Gay children are five times more likely to attempt suicidethan straight children. Highly rejected gay children have been found to be eight times more likely to attempt suicide. Can you think of a higher rejection than being put out of your home by your Christian parents or put out of your church—as a gay or transgender child—simply for an orientation you didn’t ask for? Don’t let someone created in the image of God, loved by God, and pursued by God fall through the cracks because of errant information, regardless of the source. Instead, reach out. And while you’re at it, pray for Graham and Dobson—that they will experience the love of Christ themselves so that they grow more willing to extend that love to the “least of these.”
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37 minutes ago, blackbird said:
I don't agree with schools teaching on LGBTQ because they are basically teaching it is normal. So-called gay-straight alliances are another thing that projects it as normal and acceptable and so I could not support it. .
Having LGBTQ programs in the schools helps to prevent suicides, bullying and homelessness among the teens. Christianity is supposed to be about promoting family values
but when you have parents ostrasizing children because of their sexuality and making them feel worthless and sinners seems the opposite of promoting family values.
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5 minutes ago, blackbird said:
Just remember God became angry with Sodom and Gomorrah and destroyed them. Today society is becoming more corrupt and the U.S. has something like 6,000 nuclear weapons ready to go; presumably Russia has a similar amount. It wouldn't take much to trigger WW3 and destroy most of life on the planet and those remaining in great distress as they die off slowly. But this is not what the Bible prophecies so I guess it's not going to happen that way. But there could still be a nuclear war with 100s of millions killed and 100s of millions suffering and dying. I think all the corruption of society is just another sign we are in the last days before the Lord returns.
Just so I’m not confused. Did you just relate the lgbt community to nuclear war?
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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:
And that's all NAFTA is for President Trump.
Agreed
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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Everyone here knows exactly where I stand....you like to play this game for some reason to get my attention ?
A game? Well I suppose debating is a game.
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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:
Better to know that you can't be Trump supporter.
All is well....NAFTA ?
Oh, I just wanted to know where you stand. I’m good!
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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Actually, I have been remarkably consistent here for over ten years...way before President Trump happened.
I do not run away and discuss our members in the "other" forum".
I believe in reality...and applied physics.
Can we get back to NAFTA now ?
I don’t know why you keep bringing up running away. Anyway, good to know you are a Trump supporter.
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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:
"Elections have consequences" - President Barack Obama (2009)
You are not an American citizen.
No kidding. I just like to hear how you truly feel about trump and how it jives with your beliefs. That’s all I’m asking. As I say. You come across as just as wishy washy as Trump.
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26 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Trump #IsMyPresident....I don't even know what "support" from another national would materially mean.
He may be your president but many Americans think he is not representing them. It’s good to know that you feel he is representing you!
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22 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Nope...I'm doing just fine without your need for such validation.
Check my ratings....
Do you think I take your ratings seriously with a handful of active posters. Well at least I know how you derive your self importance.
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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:
See...that's the difference...I don't care what you believe in or what you respect.
I don't need to know what you believe to define or contrast what I believe in.
I get that but if you want to be taken seriously on this forum you need to consider how your posts are received even from me.
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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
I'm always here...I don't run and hide in the "other" forum.
I like President Trump so far, except for the fiscal excesses in the new budget. NAFTA needed a good shake-up.
A year in, President Trump is still upsetting the D.C. beltway game and is having a great time while he does it.
Alright you are truly a Trump supporter. Thanks for the confirmation.
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Bc. You would have more credibility if we knew what you believed in. What you truly believed in. Until you do, I have no respect for your posts.
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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:
You got an answer...you just don't like it.
Donald J. Trump is my president, not yours, so don't worry so much about it !
Oh don’t feel so proud about it. Honestly. It’s Difficult debating someone as wishy washy as you.
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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Trump has already addressed your post....unemployment is at record lows.
Canadians have no credibility on such matters as long as they support and suffer policies that cause higher costs (e.g. dairy), and lower employment (e.g. Atlantic Canada), while criticizing American "protectionism".
Thanks for your non answer. You remind me of Trump even though you say you are not a Trump supporter. I have no idea what you stand for. You are loosey goosey just like Trump. You are too afraid to admit your stance on humanity.
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5 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:
Because it's a prefix. I call heterosexuals "heteros" too. Does that bother you too?
BTW - You never did tell me how I was twisting into knots in the other thread, so....Let's hear it.
You know homo is derogatory and you still keep using it. Why? It doesn’t matter if it’s a prefix or not. As to your twisting about. Honestly hal it’s so obvious.
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8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
Canada doesn't care about American jobs unless it is in their own economic, dependency interests on the American economy.
Trump is doing just what he said he would do, which is a lot more than can be said about Justin Trudeau.
You didn’t address my post.
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27 minutes ago, eyeball said:
C'mon Betsy, are you suggesting you don't already know the answer to this?
In her world she knows. Speaking as a mom of a gay son, I find Betsy’s threads on the lgbt community a constant excuse to promote intolerance, hatred and violence towards the lgbt community. I won’t stop calling her or anyone else out on their hateful posts
This is what mama bears do. Watch out Betsy.
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1 minute ago, taxme said:
Hey, if you want to debate let's debate. I am not afraid to do so on anything. But as you probably know by now I do speak political incorrectness and this may upset you at times during our debate. Everyone has a right to their opinion. If you can't handle that than you should not consider trying to debate with anyone at all. Go join the one sided opinion club if you want to feel at home. Just saying.
But of course you have to agree with me on what I said, right? How can you not?
Voting gay people off the big island to their own island? I don’t understand your point. That would never happen.
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17 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:
The tariffs have little to do with "hurting adversaries"...U.S. federal law gives the president executive power to protect strategic interests when it comes to raw materials and defence. Trump wants to renew domestic production capabilities for steel and aluminum, increase jobs, keep a campaign promise, etc.
It's not called the "Rust Belt" for nothing, and remember how much Ontario freaked out over U.S. Steel and Stelco ?
When it comes to this topic, Canada is not an ally...it is a competitor.
Oh please. Increase jobs? At the expense of Americans not residing in the rust belt. Trump is so misinformed he’s pathetic.
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Even if that enemy is innocent? How many innocent people have been executed or are on death row? How does society resolve these issues?