Leaderboard

Exactly. The proponents of unlimited immigration all the time only look at macro numbers like GDP. They never examine micro numbers like cost of living, strain on social services, transportation and the environment. Energy prices, housing prices, etc.

These are 2 sites where people are relating their vaccine reaction stories. (Yes, Yes, I know......they're ALL liars, right? Right? ?) Stories of Regret – Sorry I Got Vaxxed C19 VAX REACTIONS - Home

Boges & Aristedes: FYI, being a vax-Nazi is not "following the science". 1) The vaccines kill some people. 2) The vaccines make some people extremely ill 3) The vaccines don't stop people from getting sick, spreading covid, or dying 4) The people who are trying to get everyone to vaccinate have been caught lying about covid AT EVERY STAGE OF THE GAME People have extremely good reasons for not fearing covid, and for not taking the vaccines. That's it. It's 100% simple now. Vax-Nazis constantly conflate the new mRNA vaxxes with old vaccines: "Vaccines stopped polio", but vaccinated people DON'T DIE FROM POLIO, so it's not a comp. Vax-Nazis constantly understate the side-effects of vaxxing and overstate the vaccines' effectiveness. Vax-Nazis instantly try to stamp out every other method of dealing with covid before it gets a chance to prove itself, and in several instances the vax-Nazis have been wrong.

No...I just don't automatically rule out the possibility of a long term effect being possible where as you do. Until this has been for years, no one can claim that chance is zero (as much as you try) Applications? You think the FDA and CDC are accepting applications for a solution that may hinder their wonder vaccine. The Merk drug is being approved hey...you know that Merk made Ivermectin. But of course, their patent is out now so they can't profit from it anymore so...let's remake it, rename it and profit.

I will have to look for a written cite. Dr Kory stated this on the Joe Rogan podcast though.

If I request you refer to me as she or any other preferred pronoun, simple courtesy and good manners that you should have learned as toddler, should be enough to do so. There is no excuse for bad manners.

People are still getting sick with the vaccine especially once it wanes as shown in Israel and the UK. The vaccine is effective for the first 4-6 months but you're going to need booster jabs to keep that up. If this Covid jab was truly a vaccine and prevented infection and lasted a decent out of time then yes...you'd be correct. However it doesn't. As such I would guarantee that people would much rather have an effective treatment (should it exist) than take a shot 2-3 times a year. Most people I know took the shot so they could travel, work and hope to return to normal. Very few of them took it because they actually thought they were at risk.

Ivermectin is touted as being an outpatient treatment, meaning once people become symptomatic they can take it and it will prevent severe outcomes. If this is true then it truly defeats the need for vaccines. Steroids are only used once covid becomes severe which means it isn't competing with the vaccine. As per your article: Ivermectin is cheap and could be given to people globally. This is why Pfizer doesn't give a shit about steroids but doesn't want off label ivermectin to succeed

But the anti vaxxers promised us that the restrictions would never be lifted, and that we'd all be doomed to live under a tyrannical rule!

Myata, you have stated your concerns. If you had the power, what would you do to fix it?

Steroids have also proven to be effective. Where's Pfizer to stamp that out? https://www.statnews.com/2020/09/02/covid19-steroids-reduce-deaths-of-hospitalized-patients-who-analysis-confirms/ Ultimately these are treatments for the disease. A vaccine is a preventative measure. Do you know what also costs a lot of money? Lots of people being hospitalized with COVID.

Herd immunity was pegged at 70-80% vaxxed, then we got to 80% and it's theoretically not nearly enough, so we have mandates and covid-divisiveness. Places with 90% still have covid outbreaks. This isn't a campaign to get people vaxxed, it's a campaign to get us vaccine-dependent and get Big Pharma rich. FYI it's possible to lie about something even though you don't have all the facts. It was a lie for the WHO to declaratively say that H2H transmission wasn't occurring at the point when they didn't know for certain that was the case. It certainly was a lie for the WHO to say that H2H transmission wasn't occurring when they knew for a fact that it was. It was a lie to say that HCQ kills people and makes them blind. The first study that came out in the NEJM and The Lancet that showed that HCQ didn't work had to be retracted because it was fake science. But they weren't censured at all. The MSM ignored it. It was a lie for the Dems and MSM to say that banning flights from China was racist. Trudeau banned flights from India to stop "THE DELTA VARIANT!" and no one ever called that racist. It was a lie to say that "the vaccines will be safe". No one could possibly have known that would be the case at the time it was being told to us. It was a lie to say that "the vaccines are safe" once it was determined that the vaccines were killing people. People still say that now, and it's 100% false. It was a lie to act like Trudeau was successfully fighting covid when he was doing everything 100% wrong and our covid numbers were abysmal for a country with such a low population and such low pop density. The MSM still completely ignores deaths caused by vaxxing, and that's a form of lying as well. The topic of dbl-vaxxed deaths is downplayed by about 99%, a form of twisting the covid narrative, aka lying. The Gov't of Ont posted a covid study that went from Dec 14th 2020 to Aug 8th 2021 and tried to act like it was somehow proof of something. There wasn't a singl dbl-vaxxed person in Canada until February, and even as late as mid-May the numbers were something like 300,000 dbl-vaxxed and 14,000,000 who weren't. That's just past the end of flu season. In July the number of dbl-vaxxed surpassed the single & unvaxxed, and the study ended weeks later. In all, they had 2 reasonable months to compare cases, but they were summer months, which are well outside of the flu season. And fwiw, covid's 2020 numbers followed the traditional flu season curve. Israel's dismal covid numbers were twisted by our MSM. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/israeli-doctors-find-severe-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-mostly-in-older-sicker-patients-1.5554818 They had no choice but to acknowledge that the Pfizer vax was failing over there, so they described covid cases in a way that they never had before - they said that it was almost exclusively affecting the very elderly with compromised immune systems. In all honesty, that's the way covid works among the unvaccinated as well, but CTV still doesn't tell us that 2/3 of covid deaths in Canada are among those 80+, who account for about 4% of the population (in other words, the other 96% of the population only has 33% of the deaths). CTV headlines the rare instances when "healthy" (usually obese, possibly smokers) people under 60 die of covid from as far away as England, but they completely ignore vax-induced deaths in children. Jacob Clynick was the 13 yr-old from Chicago who apparently died of the vaccination back in July but his death was never mentioned here. Almost 4 months later there has still never been an official cause of death given in his case, aside from the myocarditis/pericarditis that's a hallmark of vaxxing. Why the stark contrast in standards? Why don't they report on all of the athletes who were gravely affected by the vax? Why is none of the MSM's reporting factual/unbiased? Why is there a bias at all in their reporting? It's not weird that there's bias, it's just shocking how much bias there actually is. In BC and Ont, the two key battleground provinces in the last federal election, covid cases were underreported before the election. It was on the cover of the Vancouver Province newspaper, and just a week later Ont reported that they made the same 'mistake' in the month before the election. Somehow two provinces both got their covid numbers wrong for one month before the election, but in every other month in every single province in the country before and after the election the covid numbers were 'accurate'. That's weird, and by weird I mean 'politically motivated bullshit'. The CDC came out and disclosed the fact that on 94% of "covid" death certificates in the US, covid is only one of the causes of death listed. IE, only 6% of the people who "died of covid" died of covid alone. That means that when they showed the bloated total of 600,000 covid deaths, only about 36,000 people died of covid alone. MSM/Fauci: "Natural immunity doesn't work. There was a guy in China who got covid, recovered, and then got covid again and died from it. Only the vaccines will work." (obviously bullshit - once your body develops adaptive immunity to covid then you have the same kind of immunity that the mRNA vaccine tells your cells to produce, likely more immunity) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279396/ Somehow they told us this one unverified anecdote from all the way over in China (aka the land of the trustworthy government) and used that to completely overrule everything that science ever taught us about viruses and immunity. To this day, natural immunity officially means nothing because of "The Anecdote That Rewrote Science!!" Why is it that the people in North American who have seen the most left-wing news coverage about covid are, by far, the most ignorant about covid-related matters? They think that the hospitalization rate is twenty times higher than it actually is overall, they have no clue how rare it is for young people to get ill from covid, or how similar the covid death toll is to that of the normal seasonal flu among young people. Spoiler alert: it's because left-wing news is a complete farce. My own doctor told me that dbl-vaxxed people don't die of covid. He looked me and my wife right in the eye and said that to us. That may be true enough for a leftist, because what they want to be true forms their baseline for 'truth', but I prefer the actual truth with all of its warts. I'll happily arrive at the reasonable conclusion when provided with some honest facts, but I don't like being lied into a corner. I'm not a fan of Machiavellian medicine, where they lie to you and apply undue pressure in order to get you to do what they want you to.

Rue was suspended quite some time ago.

Your problem appears to rest on having a beer income with Champaign tastes. Maybe you should consider increasing your income. Get a trade, join the public service, or become a Liberal MP. I can get a decent cup of coffee for under $2.00 and a bun for even less. Better yet, make your own coffee and food. Pack a bag lunch. Be grateful for what you have and stop whining.

Just some food for thought: https://covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/epidemiologic-analyses-on-covid19-and-ivermectin/

Some are and have had their hands slapped pretty hard. Ivermectin has been around for decades. It costs pennies and Pfizer would make zero dollars if it works. Monoclonal antibodies and remdesivir cost something like a $1,000 per dose. According to Pierre Kory, the active mechanism in remdesivir is the same as ivermectin but of course ivermectin isn't as profitable. Pfizer doesn't mind the treatments if they are the ones selling them.

You really need a cite to know that Ivermectin has been shut down? Ok.... https://calgary.ctvnews.ca/alberta-s-colleges-of-physicians-and-pharmacists-voice-concerns-over-ivermectin-prescriptions-1.5597861 You can argue with the premise that ivermectin works or doesn't but the fact is the health authorities won't even give it a chance and its not for fear of it being unsafe.

I could post you the numerous studies in favor of Ivermectin use (as shown on FLCCC) however its just easier to post this summary, especially since nothing would convince you anyway.

That one is obviously a pro Ivermectin article but I've been reading the mainstream anti guys too. I've noticed some stuff in those that I find interesting. First of all there seems to be a massive desperation to "debunk" that began in early October. The Indian Council of Medical Research (ICMR) and the National Task Force on Covid-19 dropped the use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) drugs from their revised guidelines for the treatment of the infection in late September. Make from that what you will. Notice they didn't actually make it illegal or even less accessible they just said they would no longer support it. If you want medicinal Ivermectin now you can either jump through hoops and hope to get on a study or you can order it from India. Apparently there's a big demand for it. Write that off to the Streisand effect. Also I notice a lot of the arguments from "debunkers" are kind of lame in that they attack things they support in other places. For example, I think it was the BBC, or maybe was the Alberta Government was telling us how Ivermectin studies couldn't be taken seriously because some of them were observational. But I was discussing masks on another thread and got linked to a pro mask collection of mostly observational studies. I think it's more a case of who was doing them that was the "debunk" there though. There's favored and unfavored scienceytists. Most interestingly though I noticed this mass desperate debunking of Ivermectin all began about the time Pfizer and Merk announced they were coming out with pills that used the mechanic of protease inhibitor. This is what's supposed to be what makes Ivermectin useful as a treatment to ward off Covid. I heard a theory that Big Pharma is starting to worry accounts of adverse reactions from and waning efficacy of the vaccine are getting too prevalent. It won't be possible to keep the information closeted from the gullibles much longer. They're going to need a different place to shake the money tree.

I have one for Delhi but it only covers up until June. Ivermectin use began in late April in Delhi. You can find that graph here: Ivermectin obliterates 97 percent of Delhi cases

Just to be clear, all of India did not use Ivermectin. Only certain states like Delhi, Utter Pradesh and Uttarakhand implemented it. Conversley, Tamil Nadu publicly banned the use of ivermectin. Go back to your graphic and look at the charts for those specific states and see if you notice any differences.

India has since removed Ivermectin from their Covid treament plans due to "lack of evidence". It also took significantly longer for the spike in question to subside in India. Looking at a wave that happened at a similar time but did not use Ivermectin, we see a similar timeframe This is of course not an apples to apples comparison, but on the surface it doesn't look like Ivermectin had much of an effect.