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That goes both ways. I notice no comment from any of the people here who are militantly pro-forced injections, on the article where the government/media/health officer has been found lying about deaths from covid. So don't bother bleating about how other people aren't listening to facts. You are ready to abolish the Nuremburg Code, the Canadian Constitution, persecute your fellow citizens for exercising their universal human rights, refuse to acknowledge the government's and media's part in any of this debacle and just continually whine "It's all the unvaxxed fault! It's all the unvaxxed fault!! Waaaa! Waaaaaa." Chickens with your heads cut off, running around screeching and parroting whatever you're told to parrot.

Good to see that the brainiacs in Quebec had to roll back their vaccine mandate deadline after insisting numerous times they would not. Had they gone ahead, would have meant termination of 21,000 health care workers, closure of 35 operating rooms and 600 beds. The health care personnel have spoken. God bless them all. Now that they see this, they have the numbers and the political will to hold their ground. Those stupid government chivatos thought they could bully the Quebec nurses, but they have another thing coming. Now Doug Ford is looking for “advice” from hospital CEO’s on the matter. Let me tell you something, DoFo. Those CEO’s dont know nothing about nothin, just look at balance sheets with big numbers, and go to meetings with fancy food and drink every day. Completely useless. Just look at the state of Canadian healthcare and tell me why anyone should believe they are at all competent. Whole system is rotten through and through, needs an enema.

Obviously it is a mixture. The news and politics broadcasts seem to lean toward liberal and tow the liberal ideology. As an example, the host of the evening news broadcast is a Muslim woman with a Hijab. The obvious purpose of this is to send the liberal message of multiculturalism rules. Other political broadcasts often use racial minorities although the number of minorities they often use does not represent the demographic cross section of Canada or Canadian thought. Often they use aboriginal pundits to constantly push their liberal ideology of inclusiveness or reconciliation. The Fifth Estate program might be more of an independent branch.

Generally it is. The program the Fifth Estate does sometimes reveal some deep failures about the government. This is one of those cases. The deal with China was pure madness. But it makes me wonder why this was not broadcast by the CBC Fifth Estate before the September election, instead of a month and a half later. I doubt if it would have made much difference though because the Liberal voters are not listening or probably would not have understood. The fact is obvious that China weaponized the Covid vaccine that was supposed to be jointly developed by Canada and China, through the Chinese company Cansino BIO and the People's Liberation Army, and simply refused to ship the first samples to Canada for testing in a lab in Canada likely because Meng Wangzhou was being held in Canada. Trudeau failed from the beginning to realize what he was doing was utter madness. Any government that thought they could make a deal like that involving the PLA must be in an alternate reality. This really put Canada's national security at risk. As the Fifth Estate said, this delay in Canada getting it's own vaccine production capability might have cost thousands of lives. I am reading the Kindle book "Hidden Hand: Exposing How the Chinese Communist Party is Reshaping the World" and just learned how deeply embedded China's CCP operatives and puppets are embedded in government and all levels of society in Canada. Britain has been infiltrated and influenced so deeply by the CCP now that the book says it is probably beyond recovery. There are British, European, and other followers of Maoism, Leninism, and Marxism who really believe China is leading the way in bringing enlightenment to the world.

To be clear, I am on that side.

Notice how the Trudeau lovers like @Bogesand @BubberMileysteer completely clear of this topic! ? They don’t venture into the Canadian federal politics section much anymore.

You are all being duped into a whole new governing paradigm. You shall all be swept away.

No just information games. You got one shot (as per the record, with health card) you're partially vaccinated. That's common sense, without games. And so on. This is just to illustrate that the point here is not to provide honest information, but to confuse and mislead. Aka, propaganda, plain and clear. And, we're paying for it. And, to add insult to injury, outrageously, with automatic annual raises and increases.

I'm finding that "factcheckers" most often agree with whomever is funding them. And the majority of them don't know a fraction about the subject they are supposedly factchecking, compared to the experts being "factchecked".

The day Facebook and Twitter end in the grave yard I will be dancing in the streets. Both selectively ban people. But Isamics who make death threats at other former Muslims do not get banned - ever.

It's definitely the least of some people's concerns. I've been reading a lot about the effect all this has had and will have on our kids. It's very sad. Here's the thing: I don't believe anyone has to justify why they choose NOT to get the jabs. Bodily autonomy and being able to choose our own medical procedures is well-established in Western democracies. The Nuremburg Code states clearly that it is against international law to force anyone to participate in medical experimentation. That includes coercing and bullying them to do so, as Dr. Patricia Daly states the government is doing. Nor do I agree with the lying going on about case numbers and deaths. THEY need to prove that forced injections are justified. I don't believe that a virus with a 99.5% survival rate, which mainly affects elderly and terminally ill people (the same as the flu) and hasn't even made a dent in any country's yearly death rates for the last 2 years, in any way justifies forcing 100% of the population to allow themselves to be used as medical experimentation with a vax that has zero long-term testing and was rushed to market and you can't sue them if it craps the bed on everyone (I'm not surprised Pfizer put this as a condition, though, as they've been sued for billions of dollars in the past for lousy vaccinations). I definitely don't believe it is justifiable in any way, shape or form to impose such a thing on children, who face almost zero risk.

No one has said that ONLY elderly and terminally ill are at risk. It is very clear though, that they are the ones MOST at risk. And children are the LEAST.

You already know why. I agree with the hard-fought for human right of bodily autonomy and democratic freedom. You do not. That's fine. But we disagree about this. Why are you ONLY blaming the unvaxxed, O brainwashed one, who only listens to MSM? Please, explain to us all why you believe both the Nuremburg Code and the Canadian Constitution should be abolished.

This makes more sense to me. They actually treat people to keep them from going to the hospital and will treat them in the hospital. I have no proof they are doing this but it would make sense. Yes....that is the story of the ER doctor that gave three patients ivermectin and two of the the three made dramatic turnarounds with the other one stopping the deterioration. Again, why not try it if it doesn't hurt.

My point is that covid actually poses a threat to people over 40, and they should know whether or not they should take a chance on the vaccines. Still, I wouldn't go so far as to say that someone is an idiot for disbelieving what they see on CTV and CBC. Those two have lied/omitted so much since the beginning of covid that it's outrageous.

As you know, anyone who doesn't tout the propaganda is driven from many platforms. Maybe start reading the comments on some of the propaganda articles you link to - people are waking up, which is why the government and media have increased silencing and de-platforming them. When they do find a platform to tell their story on - you and others here reject the platform as not being a legitimate platform. Get your head out of MSM's arse and start paying attention to what's really going on.

If it's "common knowledge" that the hospital up there is chronically understaffed and beds have been closed due to budget cuts, then why blame the unvaxxed as being the source of the problem? The brainwashing is strong with you..... You know what they called people who blindly went along with the Nazi propaganda and persecuted their fellow citizens in the 1940's? COLLABORATORS. You and several others here - and all the restaurants and gyms etc who are doing the government's dirty work by imposing the passports, businesses that are firing employees for exercising their right to choose their own medical procedures - are definitely going down in history as collaborators in punishing and taking away the human rights of others.

This is the governmental and media propaganda I am talking about that needs to STOP. A couple weeks ago, Alberta announced it's first teenager had died of Covid: Alberta reports youngest COVID-related death to date - CityNews Edmonton Kenney and Hinshaw made special public announcements regarding this case - using this young man's death as fodder for propaganda. The family is livid about it: Shared post - So many lies (locals.com) This isn't the only time this has been done. I know personally of a family whose mother was recovering nicely with a mild case of covid and then she got that flesh-eating disease. She eventually passed in hospital, after undergoing 6 (SIX!!) skin debridings. They listed her death as "from covid". That family, that I know personally, was also livid and argued with he doctor over this. They didn't have the emotional or mental strength the deal with it though after everything they went through with their mother. So kudos to this young man's family for fighting back. I suspect we're going to see more of this. I also think this is why so many in healthcare are bucking the shots - they see the false narratives being touted in the headlines and that it is not working. They also see all the adverse reactions and many have commented on the staggering increases in heart attacks and strokes following the vax. So why the lies? And how many more cases are complete and utter BS? Kenney and Hinshaw still have not issued a correction or an apology to this family. And what is the point of "testing" someone for covid 2 days before they die? (And don't tell me they didn't know he was going to die - as a death doula, I'm trained in recognizing the signs of imminent death, as nurses/doctors also are.) (Danielle Smith is an amazing investigative journalist from AB - it was her interview with Lt. Col. David Redman that I watched early in this whole debacle, where he slammed the government for not following pandemic protocols that were already set in place. I recommend you watch it, if you can still find it on YouTube. It was through The Western Standard publication.)

@ Aristides: You know how you want us to believe that because you heard of some outbreak in its early stages where unvaccinated infections outnumbered vaccinated that that was the way it always had to be at all times everywhere? Tell you what...you like examples from BC right? Try this one involving the Ahousaht Nation just north of Tofino: " The remote B.C. community of Maaqtusiis, home to the Ahousaht Nation, has been in lockdown for two weeks because of COVID-19. The schools have been closed, non-essential travel to and from the community has been prohibited, and families have been asked not to mingle with other households. Unlike many Indigenous communities in British Columbia where vaccination rates are below the provincial average, the Ahousaht enthusiastically welcomed a team of public-health nurses who arrived with the Moderna vaccine on Jan. 6. The outbreak adds to growing concerns that the protective benefits of the vaccines may be waning. Ahousaht Chief Councillor Greg Louie helped set the tone by being first in line to receive his vaccine. He says 92 per cent of eligible community members got their first shot during that January clinic, after public-health officials ran information sessions. Most residents returned for their second shot four weeks later. (The province later increased the recommended interval, based on clinical trials that concluded that getting the second dose six to eight weeks after the first may provide stronger protection.) Now, eight months on, First Nations health officials are concerned the protection offered by the vaccine is fading, just as the more dangerous Delta variant is spreading. Since Sept. 4, there have been more than 50 cases of COVID-19 in Maaqtusiis, involving five households, with additional cases among Ahousaht members living off-reserve. A breakdown of how many cases required hospitalization was not provided. “We have seen higher rates of COVID among fully vaccinated individuals – as high as three times the rate among the general B.C. population,” said Dr. Shannon McDonald, acting chief medical officer for the provincial First Nations Health Authority (FNHA)." https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/british-columbia/article-covid-19-outbreak-in-bc-indigenous-community-fuels-concerns-over/ So do you still believe small samples over short periods of time are proof of phenomena happening always everywhere? Because I have more like the one above. Would you like to see them one at a time or in one novella sized bunch?

Yeah, I get it, because the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn't protect the protected, right? I missed something. Who are the "dumb asses" again?

Haha, that's very kind. I believe healthcare should also look after people's emotional needs, sometimes it can make all the difference and it's an important part of healthcare that our leaders seem to care little about. Especially when they are just making rules to punish and control now - a la Dr. Patricia Daly. There has been absolutely zero concern over people's mental and emotional health since this began.

I'm sorry to hear that - it breaks my heart, actually. I've been honoured to work with 3 families as their death doula since covid and the hardest part for me has been the times when I can't see or meet them in person, only over Zoom. It's just not the same. I can't imagine how difficult that is for you, and for your wife.

Imagine how united we could all be if our government stopped the fear-mongering and the blaming of those who either cannot or choose not to vaccinate. Imagine if we got daily briefings like this: "Today, there was 1000 cases of covid, but 992 of them are okay. Thank you to our citizens who chose to get vaccinated. Thank you for doing your part. Those that chose not to, thank you for continuing to be safe by staying home when you feel ill, washing your hands regularly, and taking the preventative vitamins and other things we've said to take from the beginning of this. Thank you everyone for doing what you can to protect our most vulnerable - our elderly ones. We're doing well in spite of this pandemic. We know it's been hard on everyone. Thanks, everyone, for pulling together and looking out for each other and taking care of each other." I know I'd rather hear that, than Dr. Patricia Daly telling everyone that even though there's not much transmission at restaurants, movies and gyms everyone has to stay home and now those that are not vaccinated - we will punish them by not allowing them at venues where we know there's already little likelihood of transmission and we'll blame them for the case numbers even though we know it's being spread by the vaccinated, too and also our government has totally fucked up by cutting back on healthcare to the point that our entire country cannot handle 715 people in the ICU over a period of 18 months.

Not agreeing with workers being abused. But I also don't agree with the citizens of this country being abused. Dr. Patricia Daly, Chief Medical Health Officer of Vancouver Coastal Health: I wonder how long they've known that covid transmissions do not occur in restaurants and gyms......It's certainly not about science or health. It's about control. It's no wonder people are getting frustrated. Congratulations on your slightly longer leash. Enjoy using it to bite and snap at your fellow citizens, while you can.

They could get Lorena Bobbitt as a spokesperson! ?