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  1. Agreed, Zeitgeist. True Nations are independent. Bands that are completely dependent upon government largess are anything but.
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  2. You (and by that I mean you and the legal systems of Canada) are inferring a lot of things from a culture that no longer even exists. Further, by similarly crediting some kind of environmental higher ground to Indians tells me you have no experience at all in actually dealing with and on reserves. All of this posturing is a Gretta Thunberg version of learned stage behaviour.
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  3. It’s more complex than that though, because some groups had permanent settlements, such as on the west coast. Others moved when the land became depleted every several years, such as the Six Nations. Other areas never saw much European settlement and were essentially left alone, such as Nunavut. For the first 200 years of European settlement, there wasn’t a lot of conflict because there weren’t a lot of people. Indigenous groups warred and displaced each other throughout the prairies and Central Canada. Treaties were formed and title established in the areas where it was deemed necessary. People continued to move and settle. Now it’s all about claiming continuous exclusive occupation to gain title or some kind of back pay. The contexts today have changed and so have the people. The courts can work out the claims. The Indian Act and its associated policies are dated and need to change, but those rights are funded by taxpayers, who can turn the funding up or down. It comes down to funding and legislation. Feel free to change the legislation, but even if changes, where does the funding come from? All government requires funding. You can’t draft your own rules and expect others to pay for the setup. That’s the situation. It’s the child who wishes to come and go and live and spend as he or she pleases with the parents’ money and blessings. It’s not true independence for many Indigenous, even after the title and claims are established, which is why this is a losing proposition for taxpayers. For some people there will never be enough money or land because of past injustices and a well established culture of dependence. It’s a broken system that many Indigenous don’t really want to change, so I’d be careful about getting too drawn into the radical rhetoric. Let the courts do the work, maintain the funding, and move on.
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  4. the aboriginal populaion of Canada pre-contact was about the same as Chicoutimi. The mere notion that somehow this tiny collection of people with no national government, no science, no written language, etc. somehow had "title" to the land from coast to coast to coast is ludicrous. Take me to their land titles office and show me the deeds. The 1.6 miilion or so today claiming some sort of ancestral rights are simply some fragment of what was nothing more than municipal levels of settlement, not "sovereign nations". That is almost as goofy as thinking you can have a sovereign Quebec - never mind 200 other "countries" within Canada. If the Indians today want something to call their own, give them Chicoutimi and let's see if they can ALL ON THEIR OWN make a go of it. The "settlers" seem to be able to do so.
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  5. It’s not stolen land it was conquered land.
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  6. Perceiving land rights as a collective concept may be what some Indigenous cling to but many have understood that securing land title for their communities through the Supreme Court is the only way forward. The Wet'suwet'en had the chance but decided to abandon the process.
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  7. Hey, maybe they knew this was coming and thats why they over produced on pot and now have warehouses full of it? Any day now rumours will start to spread that the only way to avoid this plague is to stay high as giraffe pussy.
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  8. An overwhelming majority of people infected end up surviving. Around 2% die and they are mostly the elderly and the weak. Just to give a perspective, at its peak, 50% of those who got Ebola died. The biggest problem with the coronavirus is that it's one of the most contagious and it spreads quickly. We're far away from hitting the peak. It's just getting started. Here is a comparison between coronavirus and others. Eat healthy, live healthy and stay safe.
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  9. Yes, it is incredibly stupid to want energy independence while stopping east-west pipelines. Oil doesn't care what kind of government is in control.
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  10. Here’s reality: If the will of the elected chiefs and the majority of unelected hereditary chiefs is ignored and the voices of a loud, small group of protesters who have sabotaged the work of business and governments to the tune of 100’s of millions of dollars is allowed to stop economic development in both Indigenous and non-Indigenous communities, there will be no economic development. Eventually it won’t just be the lack of jobs and inability of these regions to become self-sustaining that will be the issue. The total amount of tax revenue that bands receive and the standards of living, Indigenous and non-Indigenous, will decline. At that point where will reconciliation stand? How sympathetic will the wider Canadian public be? How cohesive will more desperate Indigenous communities be? Reconciliation requires honesty, not just about the history that proves continuous exclusive occupation by one group and its attendant rights under current law, but what the laws themselves determine about opportunity and independence. The laws also require amendment, and probably not in a way that encourages continued financial dependence. As for past injustices, these aren’t easily established, but where traceable injustice exists that would have a substantive impact on people within said group today, we can talk about reparations. However, making today’s citizens responsible for injustices committed a century or more ago isn’t fair either. I don’t expect the descendants of United Empire Loyalists to collect payments for the land their ancestors had to abandon in the US when they fled to Canada. There has to be a statute of limitations. Nevertheless, taxpayers have paid out Indigenous for residential schools. Abuses existed in all schools decades ago. If you wanted an education a century ago, it was the religious institutions running many of them. There were no Indigenous schools because those groups didn’t make provision for it. Even today, if you come from a remote, small Indigenous community, you will have to live elsewhere to attend high school. Sure, now it may be Indigenous run, but that doesn’t mean the substance abuse and suicides have stopped, nor can those problems be blamed solely on racism. I appreciate cultural exchange and I think we have things to learn from Indigenous as from all cultures. If you want real reconciliation, we have to have honest conversation. We have a common interest: sustainable development and economic prosperity. We can’t let radicals who may not even have Indigenous interests at heart hijack discussions and the economy. To me the biggest worry about all of the protest and shutting down of the economy is the economic price people are paying, and you can bet that price will be especially high for Indigenous.
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  11. So Trump should not talk about this virus anymore in case he might upset some experts? Trump is not interfering with anybody. There was some idiot on one of those so called American TV news channels like CNN who pretty much said that this virus is Trump's fault. Any excuse to go after and blame Trump for something. Even the drop in the markets is somehow Trump's fault. The ignorance of some people's kids. Deplorable.
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  12. A closer look at some of the key players in the Lower Mainland’s Wet’suwet’en protests With near-daily protests and blockades disrupting the Lower Mainland, residents are beginning to see some key faces appearing regularly on their TV screens. While demonstrators have taken pains to reject the label of “protester,” referring to themselves instead as land defenders supporting Indigenous sovereignty, it has become apparent that behind many of the actions is a much smaller group of activists. In Vancouver, the face of the string of actions — including an occupation of Attorney General David Eby‘s office and several port blockades — is Natalie Knight. “We are Indigenous people who have lived on this land for a very long time with uninvited settlers on our land,” Knight told Global News at the office occupation. “It’s an economic disruption,” she said of the port blockade. “We recognize that the government tends to only understand the language of money, so disrupting capital and the flow of goods is a language that they will understand.” But Knight, who self-identifies as the organizer of solidarity actions with Wet’suwet’en in Vancouver, isn’t from Canada. She told Global News Tuesday that she was of Yurok and Navajo ancestry with roots in California and New Mexico, and came to the country eight years ago for school, though did not want to discuss her immigration status. “I don’t think I need to share my status with you,” she said. Knight earned a PhD from Simon Fraser University, where she graduated with the Dean’s Convocation medal for her dissertation Dispossessed Indigeneity: Literary Excavations of Internalized Colonialism, described by the school as moving “between the separate fields of Marxism, feminism, settler colonialism, and critical Indigenous studies.” Perhaps presciently, her doctoral advisor Dr. Deanna Reader lauded Knight as a promising scholar and “one who will make an enormous contribution to public debates and urgent social issues in academia and well beyond.” In the Fraser Valley, there is another activist group that’s either organized or facilitated a series of rail blockades, including two that forced the cancellation of West Coast Express service. Formerly the Alliance Against Displacement, the group relaunched in January with a “wider mandate” as the Red Braid Alliance for Decolonial Socialism. On its website, the group calls itself a “revolutionary working class and Indigenous organization active on lands occupied by British Columbia, Canada.” The group has been active since 2013, but one of its key organizers, Ivan Drury, has deeper roots — going back to the three-month squat at the old Woodwards building in 2002. Since then, he’s been the ubiquitous face of the group at tent cities from Nanaimo to Vancouver to Maple Ridge and in the campaign against Burnaby demovictions. In January, he took the lead on a plan to set up an “anti-RCMP checkpoint” outside B.C. RCMP headquarters in Surrey in response to the force’s actions in Wet’suwet’en territory. Drury did not respond to requests for comment. Global News asked the Red Braid Alliance how a group that was founded on housing advocacy became a central actor in a series of civil disobedience actions in the Indigenous sovereignty movement, but they didn’t want to talk. “We don’t want to talk to you on the record about that right now,” said the organization’s Listen Chen, reached by phone, “because it feels like a distraction from the movement as a whole.” https://globalnews.ca/news/6601384/who-are-the-wetsuweten-protesters/
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  13. Seeing this post has somehow restored my faith in humanity. If you can do that then even the most ardent leftist zealot can still come around seeing the truth eventually.
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  14. Lol. Trudeau admin must know it's gonna be a bumpy ride with him - that's why the first thing to do was make everybody legally high! Lol. When you're stoned with a foolish grin on your face - bring on the brimstones, you're still gonna be happy!
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  15. If SHTF - as in real survival scenario - traipsing in the countryside will be extremely dangerous for city folks! Country folks will be guarding their domain! Lol, remember..................country folks have the requisite rifles! Anti-gun advocates won't stand a chance!
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  16. That would be the fakest form of sovereignty in history, nations sustained in large part because of taxpayer funding from another nation. There can be no true independence without financial self-sustainability. Sure, we can pretend otherwise to help people save face, which is what we do with the broken system. I wish it was on equal terms. I enjoy different cultures and traditions. I like languages, pow wows, hunting expeditions, dance, drums, intricate clothing, native storytelling, and traditional healing. So do many people, which is why Indigenous cultures will remain strong. That’s different from national independence, which can’t simply be conferred in name only.
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  17. Local interest instead of UNDRIP? Agreed. Define reconciliation. It can mean very different things to members of the same Indigenous group. Ask the Wet’suwet’en. Define environmental stewardship. Transporting oil by truck and rail, as well as shipping oil from overseas, has big environmental costs.
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  18. I’m a moderate and have no interest in right or left politics, but only a moron would think terrorist Omar deserves over 10 million in compensation after killing a US serviceman. It’s insulting both to the family of the victim and our US ally. If you’ve read any of my posts, I think it’s disgusting how the US enables Saudi dictatorship to protect her oil supply, which is all the more reason we need to maintain energy independence and security. The thugs sabotaging the railways and their supporters won’t realize the damage they have done until the jobs dry up in their communities for their relatives and friends who like to work for a living and the public has figured out the con. You’re looking through the wrong end of the microscope. Reconciliation is dead because of radical sabotage. What’s more, people have very different ideas of what reconciliation means. If Canadians think it’s just about getting more stuff whilst biting the hand that feeds, they won’t go for that. Dress it up in the prettiest sounding language you want. Facts are facts. As for your anti-pipeline stance, I don’t disagree that there’s a constituency that thinks the same way, an ignorant one that seems to think that shutting down a natural gas pipeline will stop natural gas and oil distribution. It won’t. It will just be transported in a more dangerous way that produces more greenhouse gasses. The economy will get greener and wise policy can help. There’s no guarantee that good paying resource jobs will be replaced, especially in the far north and in Indigenous territory. I want to see Indigenous thrive. It can only happen with economic prosperity.
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  19. Yeah Horgan empowered leftist and green fascists who now want their pound of flesh. This is the result of big-payout land claim precedents, non-state movements like Extinction Rebellion, and socialist central planning dictates such as UNDRIP. Horgan can’t fight this because he facilitated it. Once the jobs flee and the public get tired of footing the dole for anarchic activism, the NDP will get run out of town and replaced by a right-leaning government. Same will happen nationally. Just a matter of time. Bob Rae begets Mike Harris.
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  20. Betsy you'll be just fine, find friends or family and stick together, pool your resources, and try to stay secluded, and away form others ...you'll know when the country starts to panic to much , it'll be all over the media …… what he means is leaving the cities as the larger the population area the more people will be competing for the same resources, food, gas, shelter, water...... but you also risk not being near those other resources such as hospitals, or doctors, for medical assistance.... stock up on some food, dry goods, cans stuff, and have medications topped of, maybe buy some flu type meds as well to help with those symptoms...And you'll be fine...
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  21. Town folks have the romantic notion that they'll 'live off the land' . . . . . naive and idealistic. This notion, if acted upon, often ends badly. Leave the bush to the folks that know how to live there. For experienced bush folks, life ain't all that great . . . .
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  22. This just in corona virus carriers just spotted in downtown Wawa, Ontario.
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  23. I hate Trump as everyone knows. Pew kaka. However fair is fair. His move to take out the sob in Iran looks to be working well in quietening down Iran. Next today the US entered a peace agreement with the Taliban. Hope it holds. The fact is it happened under Trump's watch so his office gets credit. For a war monger as some have accused him of imagine if Obama had done that. Will any detractors of Trump notice this? I did. Have to be fair. Anytime you can do something like that it should be applauded. Like I said I hope it holds.
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  24. 2. They have been under the Indian Act that was administered by Indian Affairs. That makes the term I have used for the last 70 years and will continue to use: "Indian". If it offends your politicly correct virtue signalling, so be it. If some Indians want to be treated respectfully, they will need to earn that right be conducting themselves respectfully, and that is NOT what the Indians involved are doing. 3. As has been clearly pointed out to you, they stopped trying two years ago. There is no right or privilege afforded to Indians, Whites, Greens, Browns or WTF other to do what they have done for ANY reason whatsoever. What I can credit them with is pointing out clearly to Canadians that there is no rule of law in this country for those who are privileged by the PCVS crowd to be allowed to endlessly live outside of said rule of law. 4. It "worked"???? It worked to show Canadians who bother to take notice that the whole situation is completely out of hand and MUST be rectified - and not by giving any special allowance to some very small minority who don't like the ruling of the courts nor have any respect at all for the laws of this land (that includes these few "hereditary chiefs" and the compete frigging morons who currently occupy cabinet seats.
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  25. If you support blockades, your view is fringe and extreme. Almost a super majority of Canadians are against these types of actions. So any member on this forum in support of this, should know that they’re essentially anti-Canadian. Their view is extreme, fringe, and not held by most of Canadians.
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  26. Perhaps its because people like you are the ones who do the flaming and insulting in an effort to shut down this thread. And perhaps it's because were it not for this thread the same discussion would be taking place across a dozen others instead.
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  27. What bothers me about it is that everyone of these protesters must somehow make a living. Who is paying them? Certainly not the kind of thing the Looney Left Media is about to investigate. You want to understand the agenda, it's the Golden Rule (i.e., follow the gold).
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  28. I wasn't doubling down on my ignorance, but describing yours.
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  29. I'm not ashamed of Canada in the past and present. I'm ashamed of the spinelessness of our leaders, but much could be accomplished if we could fumigate schools and universities of all the sniveling Marxist progressives so students would not be indoctrinated in anti-Canadian, anti-western, anti-Capitalist dogma.
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