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Got to love these guys.....Why are they is such a rush to Purchase Military equipment ? the liberal have never been in a rush to spend on the Military .....and Why are they brushing off the advice of DND ? I'd really like to know who within the Liberal Cabinet is advising them on these purchases.......and what their qualifications are? either fire the CDS and his cowboys, and hire on this liberal advisor to run DND....or give the CDS some strings, so he can dance the liberal tune....i ain't got nobody....

Derek, the liberals have already spoken, it has wings, a few engines, and wheels it is good enough....come on....i mean you don't have to stand up if your over 6 ft tall, never have to wear a helmet, or ear phones for comms, nor do we have to worry about the floor not being reinforced.....according to the liberal experts some of which are here on this forum, all you need is a folding chair, some bino's and a window to look out of.....and maybe SAR techs might have to jump once or twice.....

The Fraser Institute report documented the earnings of immigrants/refugees and thus the taxes they would pay as opposed to the cost of services provided to them and came up with a deficit to all levels of government of $30 billion per year. Opportunities? Sure, they have opportunities, just like anyone here who doesn't speak English and has no job skills, no contacts, and no education.

Himmler was fascinated by Islam and referred to it as the warrior's religion. Hitler's spin on it is easily available online... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_between_Nazi_Germany_and_the_Arab_world#Hitler.27s_views_on_Islam

Of course this does not include the costs of health care nor of the education for their kids. Nor does it include the costs of supporting them for the rest of their lives, since most will never get more than unskilled labour ype jobs, and thus will never be taxpayers.

Throughout history, Allah has imposed upon the Jews people who would punish them for their corruption. The last punishment was carried out by Hitler. By means of all the things he did to them – even though they exaggerated this issue – he managed to put them in their place. This was divine punishment for them.... Allah Willing, the next time will be at the hand of the believers. ---Yusuf al-Qaradwi This was his mosque being picketed, of course...in Toronto. He has others in Canada...Ottawa for example...where Trudeau prays. Muslim Association of Canada...MAC. http://www.macnet.ca/English/Pages/Home.aspx

Here you go. You're welcome O Allah!] Give us victory over the disbelieving people… O Allah! Give victory to Islam and raise the standing the Muslims. And humiliate the polytheism and polytheists. O Allah! Give victory (help) to your slaves who believe in the oneness of Allah, O the Lord of the Worlds!O Allah! Give them victory over the criminal people. O Allah! Destroy anyone who killed Muslims. O Allah! Destroy anyone who displaced the sons of the Muslims. O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them. O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews! O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews!

LoL, dont even try. These people believes in death that their countries invade other countries to slap bad guys and to ensure peace this is a kind of religion of them. A religion with zero logic.

Another bungled procurement?

As does Canada, Australia, ... . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#Canada

Its not me who should shut up, but the foul mouthed imams. They have no place in civil society.

In Finland the main problem people have with refugees is that they have travelled through 8-10 countries, all of which perfectly safe, but have refused to register in any of those and are heading towards Britain, Germany, Sweden and some of them to Finland.

Ofcourse they are not. Its the same for other religions too. Huge part of so called religious people is not following their religious rules, so they are not actually a member of the religion they claim.

You hardly talk to anybody. Half the posters on this forum are on your ignore list because they disagreed with you. Not only about religion but over your many opinions.

These poor dears have had their way...all the way...for MORE than 8 years. This is like a cold bath...

Yours is merely an opinion, based on what, I have no idea. Could you provide a source that supports your notion?

New York Times, Politico and CNN (Clinton News Network)....blocked for the gaggle! Hahahahaha

You clearly have not been reading her posts as most of them are anything but moderate.

I agree with Trudeau that Diversity is our strength but at the same time I don't agree that every one who walks to our border illegally or claim refugee status should be welcomed. We have to be SELECTIVE on who we are welcoming. As Argus said it very well some time ago, immigration is supposed to serve Canada and benefit Canadians NOT the other way round. We are bringing all these Somalians, Syrians Sudanese, Africans, middle easterners with totally unadoptable culture and load our sick health system and burden more our tax system and our own people are many living below poverty and many homeless and sick waiting for care. What is this?

So women are being surrounded and molested at Mumford and Sons concerts world wide? They'd know, I guess.

There is absolutely zero problem with Islam in Europe. You missed the memo...lol.

Sweden bucks the trend. Nothing to feel guilty about. But they feel the guiltiest for being Swedish it would seem.

Everybody knows there's a BIG problem in Sweden. But, even my Swedish friends live in denial. Everything is fine in Malmo...you know...they act defensive. What about any riots?? Oh, they're over there in that neighborhood...not mine.

You know when the pro-Islam crowd is holding-up Sweden as their best example of Muslim integration into the West, there's a big battle a-coming.

To speak about illness and crime in the same breath is to ignore the success of psychiatric treatment not to mention the stubbornness of medieval attitudes.

Careful what you wish for.

Better him than the likes of you.

You apologize for them to do you?

Fortunately its what his doctors and experts on the subject, not to mention the law, says that matters most in the end.

I take it you've never watched a loved one suffer the horror of hearing voices in their head either. You should try it some time. Don't forget to pay special attention to the stigma you also suffer as a result. Really sharpens a person's sense of humanity and especially the lack thereof.

Of course we do, especially when such an array of doctors and experts have prescribed it. The doctors review their decision, learn from it, and move on. I'd still trust their judgement 7 days a week and twice on Sunday , especially compared to anything any hard-boiled right-wing conservative prescribes. Talking about sick puppies...an injection of lead to the head? Why should our stance be any different to anyone who decides not to be healthy?

He didn't decide to become ill any more than your kids decide to, That's why I keep talking about the flu. You mean to say you really don't get the parallel here? Do you realize just how many millions of deaths have been caused by influenza? Again I ask why don't you punish your kids for catching it? I know you said you didn't punish them when they did but you didn't actually say why. Think about it for minute. Just so you know It's a long well established fact that far far more schizophrenics die at the hands of healthy people than the other way around. Because your parallel is a really stupid and misleading one that's why. As usual half the shtick you guys subscribe too is forever using the government's force of law to address potential threats that are so statistically small its ridiculous and yet the real clear and present dangers, like legal alcohol for example, slide.

Well, New Zealanders did have three other prop rep options to pick from. How do they feel about holding further referendums until they get the one they like or that works best?

Speaking for myself, I think Obama should've been arrested and charged with crimes against humanity years ago, for drone strikes and torture.

It has everything to do with this. You OTOH don't...thank God.

Are you a psychiatric expert? I guess that depends on what the medical experts who know about ebola prescribe. Are you one by any chance? In any case, is it safe to assume you punish your kids when they come home with the flu?

Over there? I'm sure if you look you'll find em' hiding under your bed.

What shock are you talking about? The only people who seem shocked to me are old stock American right wingers - you know, Democrats and Republicans who still cling to the notion their country is exceptional in some way. If I was shocked it was because Trump finally said something that's true.

Since when did two or more wrongs made a right? That's the only real controversy here, or it should be in any case.

I guess we all got it coming then don't we?

I am just trying to stick to the stats as Army Guy has tried. I would have preferred people comparing the crafts themselves then the personal attacks on Army. I defer to him and Derek on these kinds of issues.

Army Guy never hesitated to criticize the Conservatives. The political hacks are the ones defending this inferior aircraft BECAUSE the Liberals chose it.

It must...as the old Robert E. Lee quote goes... It is well that war is so terrible — lest we should grow too fond of it. ...doesn't seem to apply. These guys do it with a smile on their faces.

The Einsatzgruppen were disbanded in favor of gas chambers as the SS complained about what it was doing to their troops PTSD-wise.

Dogs are unclean, after-all. The Prophet said so. You're free to ignore your nation's own vile history.

Turkey/Ottoman Empire is responsible not only for igniting WW1 in the Middle East but the Armenian Genocide. Millions dead. And if one wishes to go back in time, the Ottoman Empire has a non-stop track record of warfare, Imperialism and conquest.

ISIS and like groups would give the Einsatzgruppen a run for their money re: brutality.

...and we wonder why Americans get all narrow-eyed when some do-gooder wants to trash the Second Amendment.

The claim here by one of our esteemed members is that Germany brought this upon itself. I am unaware of Germany's Blitzkrieg campaign in the Levant during WW2. Perhaps someone could enlighten me on this area of history I'm unfamiliar with.

I seriously doubt the current Muslim rape epidemic in Germany was caused by WW2.