fellowtraveller Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Bullying to an easterner apparently means challenging them on their demand for every last penny in your pocket. My understanding from the article is that it is staff within the PMO itself that have commented on the bullying. I'm sure come from the west as that is where Harper's brain trust comes from. Yes, from those very credible and always reliable 'unnamed source' and 'senior Conservative'. Is it real, or just some crap made up by the author? Whatever happened to just telling your readers the facts? Quote The government should do something.
August1991 Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 There's no need to refer to fabricated kitten eating or caninophilia. Why not just focus on Harper's actual actions and statements?... as perceived and presented by English Canada's Toronto centric media.Harper doesn't have this reputation in French Canada and that's the tip off that we're dealing with perception, not reality. Harper has been more than fair to Newfoundland and Nova Scotia - perhaps even too fair. In both provinces however, there's a constituency of voters who have a chip on their shoulder and resent history. In Newfoundland, they also like to see a good verbal dust up every so often. It's a form of sports. Canada's great PMs were never really liked, but they were respected. That's the most Harper could ever get. Given Harper's style, I'd bet that there are some Canadians who will down right loathe the man. Bully is a polite word for what they will call him. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 There's no need to refer to fabricated kitten eating or caninophilia. Why not just focus on Harper's actual actions and statements?... as perceived and presented by English Canada's Toronto centric media.Harper doesn't have this reputation in French Canada and that's the tip off that we're dealing with perception, not reality. I would think the only reputation Harper has in Quebec is that of Santa Clause. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jdobbin Posted June 15, 2007 Author Report Posted June 15, 2007 Yes, from those very credible and always reliable 'unnamed source' and 'senior Conservative'. Is it real, or just some crap made up by the author?Whatever happened to just telling your readers the facts? I the people who speak up in the Conservative government end up being hauled away in handcuffs. Seems the Tories were always happy to hear unnamed sources talk about the Liberal government. What different now? Quote
ScottSA Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 I the people who speak up in the Conservative government end up being hauled away in handcuffs. ...by trucks in the night. And hung up with piano wire. But only after being beaten with rubber hoses and sent to Syria. Oh, wait, that was the Liberals... Quote
jbg Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Some people say Harper eats kittens.Harper isEating your children; In his kitchen; At 24 Sussex Drive; In Ottawa; In Ontario; In Canada I'm not making this up. I'm not allowed to make this up. Choose your Canada!!! Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted June 15, 2007 Report Posted June 15, 2007 Some people say Harper eats kittens.Harper isEating your children; In his kitchen; At 24 Sussex Drive; In Ottawa; In Ontario; In Canada I'm not making this up. I'm not allowed to make this up. Choose your Canada!!! That's right. It is OUR Canada. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 That's right. It is OUR Canada.Doesn't mean a Yank can't write a Canadian political advertisement. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 That's right. It is OUR Canada.Doesn't mean a Yank can't write a Canadian political advertisement. Have to wonder about a "Yank" who is obsessed with a Canadian political forum. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 That's right. It is OUR Canada.Doesn't mean a Yank can't write a Canadian political advertisement. Have to wonder about a "Yank" who is obsessed with a Canadian political forum. I have to wonder about a Canadian who's obsessed about a "Yank" on a Canadian political forum. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Mad_Michael Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 That's right. It is OUR Canada.Doesn't mean a Yank can't write a Canadian political advertisement. Have to wonder about a "Yank" who is obsessed with a Canadian political forum. I have to wonder about a Canadian who's obsessed about a "Yank" on a Canadian political forum. Absolutely right! As a Canadian who follows US politics and actively participates in US political forums, all I can say is 'welcome' to any American who may choose to participate in a Canadian political forum. Likewise to any Brits, Aussies, Euros or anyone else from around the planet who might, perchance, show some interest in our fine land! That being said, I do reserve the right to dislike your signature quotes. Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 I have to wonder about a Canadian who's obsessed about a "Yank" on a Canadian political forum. You give yourself far to much credit to think you are anything close to an obsession. An annoyance? Perhaps. An unnecessary voice from the peanut gallery? Sure. An oddity? Why not. But you are a long way from being an obsession. It seems strange that in such an active political climate as that of the USA right now, that an American comes to a Canadian political forum to get his kicks. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
jbg Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 I have to wonder about a Canadian who's obsessed about a "Yank" on a Canadian political forum. You give yourself far to much credit to think you are anything close to an obsession. An annoyance? Perhaps. An unnecessary voice from the peanut gallery? Sure. All opinions are, strictly speaking, "unnecessary".An oddity? Why not. But you are a long way from being an obsession. Then why two three posts in a short time about my right to post?It seems strange that in such an active political climate as that of the USA right now, that an American comes to a Canadian political forum to get his kicks.The US race frankly makes me sick. Hilary Clinton and Barak Osama Obama are such piss-poor candidates that they will make inevitable the election of another Republican, of however dubious quality. Also, our campaigns, much like our Congressional debates, are prolonged, eliptical and boring. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 All opinions are, strictly speaking, "unnecessary". Sorry you feel that way. I wasn't necessarily talking about posts were it is your opinions that you are posting. Then why two posts in a short time about my right to post? lmao Not questioning your "right to post". The US race frankly makes me sick. Hilary Clinton and Barak Osama Obama are such piss-poor candidates that they will make inevitable the election of another Republican, of however dubious quality. Also, our campaigns, much like our Congressional debates, are prolonged, eliptical and boring. And we Crazy Canucks are so much more entertaining? Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 It seems strange that in such an active political climate as that of the USA right now, that an American comes to a Canadian political forum to get his kicks. Interesting....first it was complaints that arrogant Americans are ignorant of other nations...now we have a complaint that an American is obsessed with Canadian politics. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Interesting....first it was complaints that arrogant Americans are ignorant of other nations...now we have a complaint that an American is obsessed with Canadian politics. More of a query than a complaint. But I can understand your misinterpretation. I imagine supporting Bush has a way of making things fuzzy. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 More of a query than a complaint. But I can understand your misinterpretation. I imagine supporting Bush has a way of making things fuzzy. Well two can play at that game, as it seems that some Canadians can't define PM Harper or themselves without Bush/Americans. That's OK...we're happy to help you out. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Well two can play at that game, as it seems that some Canadians can't define PM Harper or themselves without Bush/Americans. That's OK...we're happy to help you out. So you are happy to be the symbol of what most Canadians don't want to become? Right on. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 So you are happy to be the symbol of what most Canadians don't want to become? Right on. Of course...we are Coke....you are the Uncola, or at least pretend to be. Even "Right on" comes from you know where. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
August1991 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 It seems strange that in such an active political climate as that of the USA right now, that an American comes to a Canadian political forum to get his kicks. Why not? We've got many Canadian posters here who are obsessed by the evils of George W. Bush. Sauce for the goose and all that... Quote
BC_chick Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Why not? We've got many Canadian posters here who are obsessed by the evils of George W. Bush.Sauce for the goose and all that... The only time I thought an American poster was out of line on this forum was a poster who was telling a Canadian to call Steve by his last name. IMO, I can go on an give my opinion about Bush, Clinton, Obama, et al, but I have no business telling an American how to address their own politicians. That's ridiculous, but I do welcome American opinions, nonetheless, about our politicians. Having said that, I do agree that BC has no business even commenting on Canadian politics. The reason I say this is simple - s/he's the first to use the "Canadians have no business in American politics" any time the ocassion suits him/her. I'm with WDW on this one. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BC_chick Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 To get back to Harper's bullying tactics.... There's an interesting article in (Ken Whyte's!!!!) current Maclean's issue called "Why are the Tories so Mean?" It begins by touching on the numerous periods throughout Canadian history where partisan politics have taken over the House, resulting in ugly baseless accusations against party leaders instead of politics themselves. However, interestingly enough, apparently this is the very first time in our nation's history that a sitting prime minister, and not the opposition leader, is the one hurling the petty insults. To paraphrase the words of the article's writer - Harper truly doesn't see partisan politics, he sees liberalism as the cause of all the world's ills. I think this statement is very well said. I don't think Steve is playing politics, he truly believes the things he says. He is, in essence, very dogmatic in his views and he is very crass about his intolerance of opposing views. IMO, that'll be his downfall. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Who's Doing What? Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Of course...we are Coke....you are the Uncola, or at least pretend to be. Even "Right on" comes from you know where. Actually we're more like the rye. Ofcourse everything we poor Canadians have we've stolen form the good 'ol USA. Things like Standard time zones, Pamela Anderson and Jim Carey. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Actually we're more like the rye. Ofcourse everything we poor Canadians have we've stolen form the good 'ol USA. Things like Standard time zones, Pamela Anderson and Jim Carey. Anderson and Carrey are both now American citizens....how ironic. And of course, the many pairs of breast implants sure as hell were...LOL! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
betsy Posted June 16, 2007 Report Posted June 16, 2007 Bully. Why, oh why do I have this thug-ish image of Chretien grabbing this man by the neck, as beefy bemused bodyguards looked on? Quote
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